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    Ring and Eufy client behind pfSense

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Ring and Eufy client behind pfSense:

      I find that really really hard to believe because every single home router that I have even seen does NAPT.

      I remember discussing this before. Now it could well be that the only time I ever see this is when pfSense does something different causing me to look. 😉 But, every SOHO router device I've had cause to look at did not translate the source port outbound. Maybe I should look harder!

      Either way it's hard to believe that's an issue here. pfSense has always done that, it's not something that changed recently. Ring would have to have changed their app in a massive backwards step.

      Steve

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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        @brtech working here

        I blurred out most of the picture - never know what people are worried about posting on public forum.. But picture was fine..

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        I am on a iphone 13, running ios 15.6, my pfsense is 22.05

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          brtech @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz Interesting, ok I'll trace the traffic this evening from home then I should be able to see what isn't happening on my office install vs what is at home.

          Thanks for trying that.

          I'll update here what I find on Friday.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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            @brtech ok so I routed it through my 2.6 VM and still working fine..

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              brtech @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz Ok, so I'm almost certainly blocking something, I'll check home trace vs office pfSense and see what it is and I'll update this post accordingly.

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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                @brtech Yeah interesting to see what is the problem.. On a side note I have a ring account now - hehehe

                Now I just need a ring device ;)

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                  brtech @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz Andy's wife arrives home naked in an hour so he'll need to delete the permission!

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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                    @brtech hahaha - so set it to record, got ya ;)

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                      brtech @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz Is there a quick way to debug what would happen to an IP address/port?

                      This IP and port on this interface -> blocked by rule abc-1

                      Rather than trying to hunt through all the rules and aliases?

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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                        @brtech You could look at the state table to see where the device is connecting too. Or trying to connect too.

                        And you could log dns traffic.. Let me set it back to just my main pfsense, and then I will close the app and do a sniff on my phone IP to see what it looks up and where it goes..

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by stephenw10

                          Could it be an IPv6 issue?

                          Like, your ISP enabled v6 at some point and pfSense was configured to use it. Android started defaulting to that?

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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                            @brtech did you remove the share, I don't see any shared devices any more in the app.

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                              brtech @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz Sorry, he's just going to re-invite you again

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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                                @brtech killed all the apps, cleared my phones dns cache, setup sniffing - and then opened the app and nothing there ;) hehehe

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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                                  @brtech Ok now the trick is trying to figure out if all ring related, or my phone doing other stuff. I closed all the apps.. Flushed the dns by toggle airplane mode.. and then back into airplane mode so it should of had to do all the dns stuff.

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                                  That is what I saw for dns queries and answers.

                                  But there were some other protocols in use DTLS for example.. Which would make sense for streaming video..

                                  Here is all the conversations I saw, the last biggest one has to be the few seconds of video..

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                                  I will keep this sniff, and we could compare it to one where we fail.. I could send it to you if you want it for your own comparison.. Just email me at the email address I gave you on where you want me to send it. its like 5MB..

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in Ring and Eufy client behind pfSense:

                                    Could it be an IPv6 issue?

                                    While sure it could be, I don't have IPv6 enabled on my wifi networks.. While I agree its the future, its just too much trouble if you ask me - for zero benefit.. I been playing with it for like 12 years. And have a /48 from HE, and I do run it on a few machines. I feel I have a pretty good handle on it.. Setup a /32 with Arin, and setup all the routing for it for a work project..

                                    But when it comes to day to day use, i just don't have any use for it... And I don't care how much our local ipv6 cheerleader wants to think its gods gift to man.. Like how Prometheus gave man fire when he stole it from the gods..

                                    I personally just leave it off if not test/playing with something specific - I left it on awhile back on my pc.. And took me a bit to figure out why freaking tvmaze.com wasn't loading - A first thought, ok they are just down.. But then later when still down, like wtf.. DNS was fine, etc. bam soon as turned off ipv6 on my box - loaded instantly..

                                    So yeah - sure could be ipv6 related, should be easy enough to just turn it off for a test, if they have it enabled.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @brtech
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                                      @brtech saw your email - sent along my sniff.

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                                        brtech @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz fad4e185-09ab-498e-bd03-29035f812b2a-image.png

                                        This is a failed ring attempt from an android client (not sure how different it is between that and Apple).

                                        I'm going to go through the pfBlockerNG alerts to see if there's anything blocked there at this time, then I need to capture if on the android client when it works.

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                                          brtech @brtech
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                                          @brtech 24191b23-1cca-4685-a893-71e7778f5a35-image.png Here's the working one from Android.

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                                            brtech @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz Looks like we never get a good STUN response on the failing ones.

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