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    Anyrevo fanless appliance hitting >60 C, is this normal?

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      bokolobs @nimrod
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      @nimrod Thanks for this info! I will try this soon. pfBlockerNG was the first package I installed after the pfSense wizard and the configuring the VLANs. I'll try pfSense without this package first. Thanks again.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Mmm, 60C at the core is not necessarily a problem. The maximum junction temp for that CPU is 105C in line with most mobile CPUs. Passively cooled CPUs always run hot.
        If it's running hotter than Untangle then the loading is higher. Check the system activity.

        Steve

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          bokolobs @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 Thanks. Will do and report back. Maybe you guys could enlighten me.

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            bokolobs @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 BTW, does it make any difference if I update to the plus right after install? Or should I just stick with CE 2.6? I upgraded to Plus the first time around. Thanks.

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              There are some fixes in 22.05 that are not in 2.6 so upgrading to Plus will get your those. None that affect CPU usage that much though. The pfBlocker issue is in the package not the base.

              Steve

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                bokolobs @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Got it! Thanks!

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                  bokolobs
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                  Hi again! Bit the bullet even though I still have a few days of Untangle trial. I installed pfSense last night. Upgraded to 22.05. Configured WAN Failover and 2 VLANs. Turned on AES-NI and Intel thermal sensors. Then left it as is overnight with 20 devices connected, I'm getting ~63 °C. I'm wondering: Is this normal and to be expected? Is there anything I need to tweak to optimize this? What conclusions can I get from these? Is my appliance not good enough for pfSense? Thanks!

                  Here's my top -a results:

                  last pid: 73822;  load averages:  0.07,  0.13,  0.13                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                up 0+11:05:58  10:58:11
                  53 processes:  1 running, 52 sleeping
                  CPU:  0.0% user,  0.6% nice,  2.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle
                  Mem: 40M Active, 120M Inact, 524M Wired, 6965M Free
                  ARC: 188M Total, 33M MFU, 149M MRU, 3546K Anon, 714K Header, 2821K Other
                       54M Compressed, 135M Uncompressed, 2.48:1 Ratio
                  Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free
                  
                    PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
                  45100 root          1  52   20    11M  2656K wait     1   0:03   0.25% /bin/sh /var/db/rrd/updaterrd.sh
                  92852 unbound       4  20    0    73M    41M kqread   0   0:11   0.06% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf
                  44672 root          1  20    0    13M  3572K CPU0     0   0:00   0.05% top -a
                  81015 root          5  27    0    11M  2620K uwait    3   0:07   0.02% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN2_DHCP -B 10.210.192.17 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210.192.1.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210.192.1.sock -C /etc/rc.gateway_alarm -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 20 10.210.192.1
                  80588 root          5  25    0    11M  2620K uwait    1   0:07   0.02% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_DHCP -B x.x.x.x -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.x.x~x.x.x.x.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.x.x~x.x.x.x.sock -C /etc/rc.gateway_alarm -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 20 x.x.x.x
                   9921 dhcpd         1  20    0    23M    11M select   3   0:06   0.01% /usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -user dhcpd -group _dhcp -chroot /var/dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd.pid igc1 igc1.10 igc1.20
                    382 root          1  20    0   103M    28M kqread   2   0:01   0.01% php-fpm: master process (/usr/local/lib/php-fpm.conf) (php-fpm)
                  39689 root          1  20    0    12M  3032K bpf      1   0:02   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/filterlog -i pflog0 -p /var/run/filterlog.pid
                  22623 root          1  20    0    20M  9480K select   3   0:00   0.00% sshd: root@pts/0 (sshd)
                  97451 root          1  20    0    19M  6892K select   1   0:02   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/ntpd -g -c /var/etc/ntpd.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
                    383 root          1  52    0   132M    43M accept   1   0:01   0.00% php-fpm: pool nginx (php-fpm)
                    384 root          1  20    0   132M    43M accept   1   0:01   0.00% php-fpm: pool nginx (php-fpm)
                  83704 root          1  20    0    11M  2656K select   2   0:01   0.00% /usr/sbin/syslogd -s -c -c -l /var/dhcpd/var/run/log -P /var/run/syslog.pid -f /etc/syslog.conf
                  96810 root          1  20    0    11M  2508K nanslp   3   0:00   0.00% /usr/sbin/cron -s
                  98092 root          1  20    0    29M  9180K kqread   1   0:00   0.00% nginx: worker process (nginx)
                  98019 root          1  20    0    30M  9288K kqread   0   0:00   0.00% nginx: worker process (nginx)
                    893 root          1  20    0  9980K  1376K select   1   0:00   0.00% /sbin/devd -q -f /etc/pfSense-devd.conf
                  26082 _dhcp         1  20    0    11M  2632K select   1   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc0 (dhclient)
                  34451 _dhcp         1  20    0    11M  2636K select   1   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc3 (dhclient)
                  85405 root          1  20    0    10M  2108K nanslp   0   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/bin/ping_hosts.sh  (minicron)
                  85952 root          1  22    0    10M  2108K nanslp   1   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/bin/ipsec_keepalive.php  (minicron)
                  30396 root          1  20    0    13M  3672K pause    1   0:00   0.00% /bin/tcsh
                  22837 root          1   4    0    11M  2528K select   2   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc0 [priv] (dhclient)
                  49722 root          2  21    0    12M  2628K piperd   1   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/libexec/sshg-blocker
                  14929 root          1  52    0    11M  2700K wait     1   0:00   0.00% login [pam] (login)
                  23366 root          1  26    0    12M  3064K wait     3   0:00   0.00% -sh (sh)
                    422 root          1  41   20    11M  2852K kqread   3   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/check_reload_status
                  15980 root          1  52    0    12M  3012K wait     1   0:00   0.00% -sh (sh)
                  20712 root          1  20    0    19M  8220K select   2   0:00   0.00% sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd [listener] 0 of 10-100 startups (sshd)
                  49325 root          1  23    0    11M  2880K wait     1   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/sshguard -i /var/run/sshguard.pid
                  24020 root          1  52    0    11M  2884K wait     0   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                  18348 root          1  52    0    11M  2880K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                  30320 root          1  20    0    11M  2524K select   0   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc3 [priv] (dhclient)
                  14956 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1
                  15578 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    2   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5
                  15227 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    0   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2
                  15509 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    2   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4
                  15444 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    0   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3
                  15628 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6
                  15905 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7
                  86648 root          1  20    0    10M  2112K nanslp   2   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.expireaccounts  (minicron)
                  50242 root          1  26    0    11M  2868K piperd   3   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /usr/local/libexec/sshg-fw-pf
                  49493 root          1  20    0    17M  5284K piperd   2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/libexec/sshg-parser
                  49429 root          1  20    0    10M  2064K piperd   3   0:00   0.00% /bin/cat
                  97940 root          1  30    0    28M  7672K pause    1   0:00   0.00% nginx: master process /usr/local/sbin/nginx -c /var/etc/nginx-webConfigurator.conf (nginx)
                  73822 root          1  52   20    10M  2052K nanslp   0   0:00   0.00% sleep 60
                  86943 root          1  52    0    10M  2100K wait     0   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 86400 /var/run/update_alias_url_data.pid /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.update_alias_url_data
                  85505 root          1  52    0    10M  2100K wait     2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 300 /var/run/ipsec_keepalive.pid /usr/local/bin/ipsec_keepalive.php
                  86157 root          1  52    0    10M  2100K wait     3   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 3600 /var/run/expire_accounts.pid /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.expireaccounts
                  85072 root          1  52    0    10M  2096K wait     2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 240 /var/run/ping_hosts.pid /usr/local/bin/ping_hosts.sh
                    424 root          1  52   20    11M  2620K kqread   3   0:00   0.00% check_reload_status: Monitoring daemon of check_reload_status (check_reload_status)
                  87215 root          1  52    0    10M  2112K nanslp   2   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.update_alias_url_data  (minicron)
                  49944 root          1  23    0    11M  2876K wait     2   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/sshguard -i /var/run/sshguard.pid
                  

                  Temperature reading:

                  [22.05-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.arpa]/var/log: sysctl -a | grep "dev.cpu.*.temperature"
                  dev.cpu.3.temperature: 63.0C
                  dev.cpu.2.temperature: 63.0C
                  dev.cpu.1.temperature: 63.0C
                  dev.cpu.0.temperature: 63.0C
                  

                  Here is my system log file:

                  system.txt

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                    nimrod @bokolobs
                    last edited by

                    @bokolobs said in Anyrevo fanless appliance hitting >60 C, is this normal?:

                    Hi again! Bit the bullet even though I still have a few days of Untangle trial. I installed pfSense last night. Upgraded to 22.05. Configured WAN Failover and 2 VLANs. Turned on AES-NI and Intel thermal sensors. Then left it as is overnight with 20 devices connected, I'm getting ~63 °C. I'm wondering: Is this normal and to be expected? Is there anything I need to tweak to optimize this? What conclusions can I get from these? Is my appliance not good enough for pfSense? Thanks!

                    Here's my top -a results:

                    last pid: 73822;  load averages:  0.07,  0.13,  0.13                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                up 0+11:05:58  10:58:11
                    53 processes:  1 running, 52 sleeping
                    CPU:  0.0% user,  0.6% nice,  2.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle
                    Mem: 40M Active, 120M Inact, 524M Wired, 6965M Free
                    ARC: 188M Total, 33M MFU, 149M MRU, 3546K Anon, 714K Header, 2821K Other
                         54M Compressed, 135M Uncompressed, 2.48:1 Ratio
                    Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free
                    
                      PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
                    45100 root          1  52   20    11M  2656K wait     1   0:03   0.25% /bin/sh /var/db/rrd/updaterrd.sh
                    92852 unbound       4  20    0    73M    41M kqread   0   0:11   0.06% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf
                    44672 root          1  20    0    13M  3572K CPU0     0   0:00   0.05% top -a
                    81015 root          5  27    0    11M  2620K uwait    3   0:07   0.02% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN2_DHCP -B 10.210.192.17 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210.192.1.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210.192.1.sock -C /etc/rc.gateway_alarm -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 20 10.210.192.1
                    80588 root          5  25    0    11M  2620K uwait    1   0:07   0.02% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_DHCP -B x.x.x.x -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.x.x~x.x.x.x.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.x.x~x.x.x.x.sock -C /etc/rc.gateway_alarm -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 20 x.x.x.x
                     9921 dhcpd         1  20    0    23M    11M select   3   0:06   0.01% /usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -user dhcpd -group _dhcp -chroot /var/dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd.pid igc1 igc1.10 igc1.20
                      382 root          1  20    0   103M    28M kqread   2   0:01   0.01% php-fpm: master process (/usr/local/lib/php-fpm.conf) (php-fpm)
                    39689 root          1  20    0    12M  3032K bpf      1   0:02   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/filterlog -i pflog0 -p /var/run/filterlog.pid
                    22623 root          1  20    0    20M  9480K select   3   0:00   0.00% sshd: root@pts/0 (sshd)
                    97451 root          1  20    0    19M  6892K select   1   0:02   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/ntpd -g -c /var/etc/ntpd.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
                      383 root          1  52    0   132M    43M accept   1   0:01   0.00% php-fpm: pool nginx (php-fpm)
                      384 root          1  20    0   132M    43M accept   1   0:01   0.00% php-fpm: pool nginx (php-fpm)
                    83704 root          1  20    0    11M  2656K select   2   0:01   0.00% /usr/sbin/syslogd -s -c -c -l /var/dhcpd/var/run/log -P /var/run/syslog.pid -f /etc/syslog.conf
                    96810 root          1  20    0    11M  2508K nanslp   3   0:00   0.00% /usr/sbin/cron -s
                    98092 root          1  20    0    29M  9180K kqread   1   0:00   0.00% nginx: worker process (nginx)
                    98019 root          1  20    0    30M  9288K kqread   0   0:00   0.00% nginx: worker process (nginx)
                      893 root          1  20    0  9980K  1376K select   1   0:00   0.00% /sbin/devd -q -f /etc/pfSense-devd.conf
                    26082 _dhcp         1  20    0    11M  2632K select   1   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc0 (dhclient)
                    34451 _dhcp         1  20    0    11M  2636K select   1   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc3 (dhclient)
                    85405 root          1  20    0    10M  2108K nanslp   0   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/bin/ping_hosts.sh  (minicron)
                    85952 root          1  22    0    10M  2108K nanslp   1   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/bin/ipsec_keepalive.php  (minicron)
                    30396 root          1  20    0    13M  3672K pause    1   0:00   0.00% /bin/tcsh
                    22837 root          1   4    0    11M  2528K select   2   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc0 [priv] (dhclient)
                    49722 root          2  21    0    12M  2628K piperd   1   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/libexec/sshg-blocker
                    14929 root          1  52    0    11M  2700K wait     1   0:00   0.00% login [pam] (login)
                    23366 root          1  26    0    12M  3064K wait     3   0:00   0.00% -sh (sh)
                      422 root          1  41   20    11M  2852K kqread   3   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/check_reload_status
                    15980 root          1  52    0    12M  3012K wait     1   0:00   0.00% -sh (sh)
                    20712 root          1  20    0    19M  8220K select   2   0:00   0.00% sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd [listener] 0 of 10-100 startups (sshd)
                    49325 root          1  23    0    11M  2880K wait     1   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/sshguard -i /var/run/sshguard.pid
                    24020 root          1  52    0    11M  2884K wait     0   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                    18348 root          1  52    0    11M  2880K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                    30320 root          1  20    0    11M  2524K select   0   0:00   0.00% dhclient: igc3 [priv] (dhclient)
                    14956 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1
                    15578 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    2   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5
                    15227 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    0   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2
                    15509 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    2   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4
                    15444 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    0   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3
                    15628 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6
                    15905 root          1  52    0    11M  2220K ttyin    3   0:00   0.00% /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7
                    86648 root          1  20    0    10M  2112K nanslp   2   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.expireaccounts  (minicron)
                    50242 root          1  26    0    11M  2868K piperd   3   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /usr/local/libexec/sshg-fw-pf
                    49493 root          1  20    0    17M  5284K piperd   2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/libexec/sshg-parser
                    49429 root          1  20    0    10M  2064K piperd   3   0:00   0.00% /bin/cat
                    97940 root          1  30    0    28M  7672K pause    1   0:00   0.00% nginx: master process /usr/local/sbin/nginx -c /var/etc/nginx-webConfigurator.conf (nginx)
                    73822 root          1  52   20    10M  2052K nanslp   0   0:00   0.00% sleep 60
                    86943 root          1  52    0    10M  2100K wait     0   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 86400 /var/run/update_alias_url_data.pid /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.update_alias_url_data
                    85505 root          1  52    0    10M  2100K wait     2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 300 /var/run/ipsec_keepalive.pid /usr/local/bin/ipsec_keepalive.php
                    86157 root          1  52    0    10M  2100K wait     3   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 3600 /var/run/expire_accounts.pid /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.expireaccounts
                    85072 root          1  52    0    10M  2096K wait     2   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/minicron 240 /var/run/ping_hosts.pid /usr/local/bin/ping_hosts.sh
                      424 root          1  52   20    11M  2620K kqread   3   0:00   0.00% check_reload_status: Monitoring daemon of check_reload_status (check_reload_status)
                    87215 root          1  52    0    10M  2112K nanslp   2   0:00   0.00% minicron: helper /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.update_alias_url_data  (minicron)
                    49944 root          1  23    0    11M  2876K wait     2   0:00   0.00% /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/sshguard -i /var/run/sshguard.pid
                    

                    Temperature reading:

                    [22.05-RELEASE][root@pfSense.home.arpa]/var/log: sysctl -a | grep "dev.cpu.*.temperature"
                    dev.cpu.3.temperature: 63.0C
                    dev.cpu.2.temperature: 63.0C
                    dev.cpu.1.temperature: 63.0C
                    dev.cpu.0.temperature: 63.0C
                    

                    Here is my system log file:

                    system.txt

                    Just running top -a command and posting results here is not going to help.

                    You need to start the command, and observe the CPU usage yourself for at least a minute. Make sure there are no processes that hit 100% when unit is idle. If the unit is hitting 63C under heavy traffic that is normal and ok.

                    If these temps are too high for you, as i said in previous post, you can go into BIOS of your Anyevo appliance and just disable Intel turbo boost technology. That will lower temperatures under load significantly.

                    Untangle and pfSense can not be compared in terms of CPU usage and temperatures. pfSense is FreeBSD based and it does network filtering in a completely different way than Untangle which is Linux based.

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                      bokolobs @nimrod
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                      @nimrod Copy that. So far, no process has used 100% cpu. Closest was top -a itself (2.5%) and nginx at almost 10%. I've configured pfSense to match my requirements as much as possible. Temps are ranging from 54-65 °C. Although I can see the occasional 75 °C. I'm good with that. It looks like the main problem with my initial install was indeed the pfBlockerNG bug. Will refrain from installing that package until it has been updated.

                      @nimrod said in Anyrevo fanless appliance hitting >60 C, is this normal?:

                      If these temps are too high for you, as i said in previous post, you can go into BIOS of your Anyevo appliance and just disable Intel turbo boost technology. That will lower temperatures under load significantly.

                      Will keep this in mind.

                      Thanks so much!

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        I would also recommend using top -HaSP to see all the processes.

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                          nimrod @bokolobs
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                          @bokolobs said in Anyrevo fanless appliance hitting >60 C, is this normal?:

                          @nimrod Copy that. So far, no process has used 100% cpu. Closest was top -a itself (2.5%) and nginx at almost 10%. I've configured pfSense to match my requirements as much as possible. Temps are ranging from 54-65 °C. Although I can see the occasional 75 °C. I'm good with that. It looks like the main problem with my initial install was indeed the pfBlockerNG bug. Will refrain from installing that package until it has been updated.

                          @nimrod said in Anyrevo fanless appliance hitting >60 C, is this normal?:

                          If these temps are too high for you, as i said in previous post, you can go into BIOS of your Anyevo appliance and just disable Intel turbo boost technology. That will lower temperatures under load significantly.

                          Will keep this in mind.

                          Thanks so much!

                          The issue with pfBlockerNG is already fixed. You just need to apply the patch and you are good to go.

                          Go to System / Package Manager and click on Available Packages tab and type "system patches" and click on Install.

                          583e7dd0-6327-437c-a3f7-9a2f750f96e5-image.png

                          Onace installed, go to System / Patches and you will see this:

                          a7d3c86d-ec34-4b01-a5b0-cc4712a73847-image.png

                          Click on add new patch and then you should see this:

                          f49693cb-4574-4d4e-b896-ae7393844424-image.png

                          In the description field type: "pfBlockerNG High CPU Usage FIX" or whatever you like. Its just a description. Leave the "URL/Commit ID" field empty.

                          In the "Patch Contents" field paste this code:

                          diff --git a/net/usr/local/pkg/pfblockerng/pfblockerng.inc b/net/usr/local/pkg/pfblockerng/pfblockerng.inc
                          index 7fa8c1d2f8bf..2abbef30578b 100644
                          --- a/net/usr/local/pkg/pfblockerng/pfblockerng.inc
                          +++ b/net/usr/local/pkg/pfblockerng/pfblockerng.inc
                          @@ -4136,7 +4136,7 @@ function pfb_filterrules() {
                                   foreach ($results as $result) {
                                       if (substr($result, 0, 1) == '@') {
                          
                          -                $r = explode(')', $result, 2);
                          +                $r = explode(' ', $result, 2);
                          
                                           // pfSense > v2.6 uses an 'ridentifier' string
                                           if (strpos($result, 'ridentifier') != FALSE) {
                          

                          It should look lkike this:

                          c4497fa6-11eb-4839-87aa-962250120d34-image.png

                          Scroll down, dont change anything else, and just click Save button. Once thats done, you should see this:

                          30d5b80e-1dac-41df-9be0-230267b8f2e5-image.png

                          Click on Apply button, and if everything went well you should see this:

                          f308012a-e320-4075-81ac-b5560629375d-image.png

                          Reboot your appliance and thats it.

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                            @stephenw10 Thanks! Here's a snapshot at idle just now with temperature at 52 °C.

                            last pid: 81146;  load averages:  0.09,  0.16,  0.19                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              up 0+20:05:45  19:57:58
                            554 threads:   5 running, 526 sleeping, 23 waiting
                            CPU 0:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 99.2% idle
                            CPU 1:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle
                            CPU 2:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 99.2% idle
                            CPU 3:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.8% system,  0.0% interrupt, 99.2% idle
                            Mem: 59M Active, 141M Inact, 557M Wired, 6893M Free
                            ARC: 212M Total, 36M MFU, 172M MRU, 164K Anon, 803K Header, 3631K Other
                                 60M Compressed, 152M Uncompressed, 2.54:1 Ratio
                            Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free
                            
                              PID USERNAME    PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K RUN      1  20.0H  99.60% [idle{idle: cpu1}]
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU3     3  20.0H  99.59% [idle{idle: cpu3}]
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU2     2  20.0H  99.40% [idle{idle: cpu2}]
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU0     0  20.0H  99.14% [idle{idle: cpu0}]
                            76349 root         20    0    14M  4676K CPU1     1   0:00   0.28% top -HaSP
                               30 root        -12    -     0B  5120K -        1   0:11   0.13% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_issue_1}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        1   0:54   0.13% [kernel{if_io_tqg_1}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        0   0:55   0.12% [kernel{if_io_tqg_0}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        3   1:12   0.12% [kernel{if_io_tqg_3}]
                               30 root        -12    -     0B  5120K -        0   0:11   0.11% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_issue_0}]
                               30 root        -12    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:11   0.09% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_issue_2}]
                               30 root         -8    -     0B  5120K tx->tx   3   0:08   0.07% [zpool-pfSense{txg_thread_enter}]
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   1   0:03   0.05% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   0   0:02   0.05% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        3   0:43   0.04% [kernel{if_config_tqg_0}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        2   0:56   0.03% [kernel{if_io_tqg_2}]
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   3   0:02   0.03% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            85026 root         21    0    63M    40M nanslp   1   0:05   0.03% php_wg: WireGuard service (php_wg)
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:02   0.02% [zpool-pfSense{zio_null_issue}]
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   2   0:01   0.02% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            99680 root         20    0    20M  9480K select   0   0:00   0.02% sshd: root@pts/0 (sshd)
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:00   0.02% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_1_10}]
                               21 root        -16    -     0B    16K pftm     0   0:21   0.02% [pf purge]
                               12 root        -80    -     0B   368K WAIT     2   0:01   0.02% [intr{irq269: nvme0:io2}]
                            31914 dhcpd        20    0    23M    12M select   3   0:01   0.02% /usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -user dhcpd -group _dhcp -chroot /var/dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd.pid igc1 igc1.10 igc1.20
                            39689 root         20    0    12M  3032K bpf      3   0:06   0.02% /usr/local/sbin/filterlog -i pflog0 -p /var/run/filterlog.pid
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        1   0:00   0.02% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_4_10}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        0   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_2_10}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_6_8}]
                               22 root        -16    -     0B    16K -        2   0:10   0.01% [rand_harvestq]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        1   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_7_5}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_0_8}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        1   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_5_11}]
                               12 root        -60    -     0B   368K WAIT     3   0:10   0.01% [intr{swi4: clock (0)}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_5_7}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        1   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_6_5}]
                            40809 root         20    0    10M  2180K select   1   0:05   0.01% /usr/sbin/powerd -b hadp -a hadp -n hadp
                               12 root        -80    -     0B   368K WAIT     0   0:01   0.01% [intr{irq267: nvme0:io0}]
                               12 root        -80    -     0B   368K WAIT     3   0:01   0.01% [intr{irq270: nvme0:io3}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_3_10}]
                            83704 root         20    0    11M  2656K select   0   0:03   0.01% /usr/sbin/syslogd -s -c -c -l /var/dhcpd/var/run/log -P /var/run/syslog.pid -f /etc/syslog.conf
                               12 root        -80    -     0B   368K WAIT     1   0:01   0.01% [intr{irq268: nvme0:io1}]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K spa->s   2   0:01   0.01% [zfskern{trim pfSense}]
                            32792 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   0   0:01   0.01% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN2_DHCP -B 10.210.192.17 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210.192.1.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210.192.1.sock -C /etc/rc.gateway_alarm -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 20 10.210.192.1{dpinger}
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K -        3   0:01   0.01% [zfskern{dp_sync_taskq_0}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        0   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_0_9}]
                            32330 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   3   0:01   0.01% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4 -B 10.8.1.2 -p /var/run/dpinger_NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4~10.8.1.2~10.8.1.2.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4~10.8.1.2~10.8.1.2.sock -C /etc/rc.gateway_alarm -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 20 10.8.1.2{dpinger}
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        0   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_7_4}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_3_6}]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K -        2   0:01   0.01% [zfskern{dp_sync_taskq_1}]
                            31917 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   2   0:01   0.01% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_DHCP -B x.x.152.196 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.152.196~x.x.128.1.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.152.196~x.x.128.1.sock -C /etc/rc.gateway_alarm -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 20 x.x.128.1{dpinger}
                            97451 root         20    0    19M  6892K select   3   0:04   0.01% /usr/local/sbin/ntpd -g -c /var/etc/ntpd.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid{ntpd}
                               24 root        -16    -     0B    48K psleep   3   0:04   0.01% [pagedaemon{dom0}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        0   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_free_intr}]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K -        1   0:01   0.01% [zfskern{dp_sync_taskq_2}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_1_11}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:00   0.01% [zpool-pfSense{zio_free_issue_1_3}]
                               12 root        -72    -     0B   368K WAIT     1   0:00   0.01% [intr{swi1: netisr 2}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:00   0.00% [zpool-pfSense{zio_free_issue_0_1}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:00   0.00% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_intr_4_9}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:00   0.00% [zpool-pfSense{zio_free_issue_6_1}]
                               30 root        -16    -     0B  5120K -        1   0:00   0.00% [zpool-pfSense{zio_free_issue_7_0}]
                            

                            I also did a speed test. It reached 71 °C. Pretty happy so far.

                            Screen Shot 2022-08-02 at 8.05.23 PM.png

                            last pid: 70405;  load averages:  0.30,  0.31,  0.25                                                                                                       up 0+20:16:07  20:08:20
                            554 threads:   6 running, 525 sleeping, 23 waiting
                            CPU 0:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 22.7% system,  0.0% interrupt, 77.3% idle
                            CPU 1:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  2.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 97.6% idle
                            CPU 2:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  1.6% system,  0.0% interrupt, 98.1% idle
                            CPU 3:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  4.3% system,  0.0% interrupt, 95.3% idle
                            Mem: 59M Active, 142M Inact, 557M Wired, 6893M Free
                            ARC: 213M Total, 36M MFU, 172M MRU, 296K Anon, 805K Header, 3634K Other
                                 60M Compressed, 152M Uncompressed, 2.54:1 Ratio
                            Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free
                            
                              PID USERNAME    PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K RUN      2  20.2H  99.32% [idle{idle: cpu2}]
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU1     1  20.2H  97.16% [idle{idle: cpu1}]
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU3     3  20.2H  94.95% [idle{idle: cpu3}]
                               11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU0     0  20.2H  82.06% [idle{idle: cpu0}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K CPU0     0   1:03  17.80% [kernel{if_io_tqg_0}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        3   1:17   4.77% [kernel{if_io_tqg_3}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        1   1:01   2.64% [kernel{if_io_tqg_1}]
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        2   1:04   1.56% [kernel{if_io_tqg_2}]
                            38722 root         20    0    14M  4676K CPU2     2   0:00   0.21% top -HaSP
                                0 root        -76    -     0B   832K -        1   0:43   0.06% [kernel{if_config_tqg_0}]
                            40809 root         20    0    10M  2180K select   3   0:05   0.05% /usr/sbin/powerd -b hadp -a hadp -n hadp
                            85026 root         22    0    63M    40M nanslp   2   0:05   0.03% php_wg: WireGuard service (php_wg)
                            31914 dhcpd        20    0    23M    12M select   3   0:01   0.02% /usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -user dhcpd -group _dhcp -chroot /var/dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd.conf -pf /var/run/dhcpd.pid ig
                               21 root        -16    -     0B    16K pftm     1   0:21   0.02% [pf purge]
                               12 root        -60    -     0B   368K WAIT     0   0:10   0.01% [intr{swi4: clock (0)}]
                            99680 root         20    0    20M  9512K select   2   0:00   0.01% sshd: root@pts/0 (sshd)
                               22 root        -16    -     0B    16K -        3   0:10   0.01% [rand_harvestq]
                            32792 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   2   0:01   0.01% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN2_DHCP -B 10.210.192.17 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210
                            32330 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   0   0:01   0.01% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4 -B 10.8.1.2 -p /var/run/dpinger_NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4~10.8.1.2~10
                            31917 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   0   0:01   0.01% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_DHCP -B x.x.152.196 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.152.196~112.
                            45594 root         20    0    15M  6228K select   2   0:02   0.01% /usr/local/sbin/miniupnpd -f /var/etc/miniupnpd.conf -P /var/run/miniupnpd.pid
                               24 root        -16    -     0B    48K psleep   1   0:04   0.01% [pagedaemon{dom0}]
                            97451 root         20    0    19M  6892K select   3   0:04   0.01% /usr/local/sbin/ntpd -g -c /var/etc/ntpd.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid{ntpd}
                               12 root        -72    -     0B   368K WAIT     1   0:01   0.01% [intr{swi1: netisr 2}]
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   0   0:01   0.01% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            32792 root         20    0    11M  2620K sbwait   1   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN2_DHCP -B 10.210.192.17 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210
                            31917 root         20    0    11M  2620K sbwait   0   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_DHCP -B x.x.152.196 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.152.196~112.
                              382 root         20    0   103M    28M kqread   1   0:03   0.00% php-fpm: master process (/usr/local/lib/php-fpm.conf) (php-fpm)
                            32792 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   3   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN2_DHCP -B 10.210.192.17 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN2_DHCP~10.210.192.17~10.210
                            32330 root         20    0    11M  2620K sbwait   0   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4 -B 10.8.1.2 -p /var/run/dpinger_NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4~10.8.1.2~10
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   3   0:03   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   1   0:03   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K spa->s   3   0:01   0.00% [zfskern{trim pfSense}]
                            39689 root         20    0    12M  3032K bpf      0   0:06   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/filterlog -i pflog0 -p /var/run/filterlog.pid
                            31917 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   0   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_DHCP -B x.x.152.196 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP~x.x.152.196~112.
                               28 root         16    -     0B    16K syncer   3   0:01   0.00% [syncer]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K t->zth   0   0:01   0.00% [zfskern{solthread 0xfffffff}]
                               12 root        -60    -     0B   368K WAIT     3   0:01   0.00% [intr{swi4: clock (1)}]
                               26 root        -16    -     0B    80K -        0   0:00   0.00% [bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-2}]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K t->zth   3   0:01   0.00% [zfskern{solthread 0xfffffff}]
                            32330 root         20    0    11M  2620K nanslp   0   0:00   0.00% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4 -B 10.8.1.2 -p /var/run/dpinger_NORDVPN_HK_VPNV4~10.8.1.2~10
                               12 root        -60    -     0B   368K WAIT     0   0:01   0.00% [intr{swi4: clock (2)}]
                               12 root        -60    -     0B   368K WAIT     2   0:01   0.00% [intr{swi4: clock (3)}]
                               27 root        -16    -     0B    16K vlruwt   0   0:00   0.00% [vnlru]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K mmp->m   3   0:00   0.00% [zfskern{mmp_thread_enter}]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K dbuf_e   1   0:00   0.00% [zfskern{dbuf_evict_thread}]
                                8 root         -8    -     0B   608K l2arc_   2   0:00   0.00% [zfskern{l2arc_feed_thread}]
                               26 root        -16    -     0B    80K psleep   1   0:00   0.00% [bufdaemon{bufdaemon}]
                               24 root        -16    -     0B    48K umarcl   3   0:00   0.00% [pagedaemon{uma}]
                               26 root        -16    -     0B    80K -        2   0:00   0.00% [bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-3}]
                               26 root        -16    -     0B    80K -        0   0:00   0.00% [bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1}]
                            95917 unbound      20    0    71M    40M kqread   3   0:02   0.00% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                               26 root        -16    -     0B    80K -        1   0:00   0.00% [bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0}]
                               17 root        -16    -     0B    16K -        3   0:00   0.00% [soaiod2]
                                0 root        -16    -     0B   832K swapin   1   0:14   0.00% [kernel{swapper}]
                              383 root         52    0   135M    49M accept   2   0:12   0.00% php-fpm: pool nginx (php-fpm){php-fpm}
                               30 root        -12    -     0B  5120K -        3   0:11   0.00% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_issue_1}]
                               30 root        -12    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:11   0.00% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_issue_2}]
                               30 root        -12    -     0B  5120K -        2   0:11   0.00% [zpool-pfSense{zio_write_issue_0}]
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                              bokolobs @nimrod
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                              @nimrod Oohh! Alright! Will try this later when I can do a reboot. Network is busy right now.

                              Thanks!

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Yeah, that looks good. Nothing using any CPU at idle at all really. No CPU cores anywhere near 100% use under test.

                                Steve

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                                  bokolobs @stephenw10
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                                  Thanks for all your help @stephenw10 and @nimrod my pfSense has been up almost two full days. So far so good. I will attempt to install pfBlockerNG tonight.

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                                    fireodo @bokolobs
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                                    @bokolobs said in Anyrevo fanless appliance hitting >60 C, is this normal?:

                                    I have a fanless appliance from Anyrevo with N5105

                                    I couldnt find anything to that appliance but what I know is that many of that little enclosure have problems with heat and in many situations there would be helpful to get the heatsink of the processor off and clean the surfaces an reapply a new thermal paste ...

                                    Just my 2 cents

                                    Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                    SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                    pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                    Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                      bokolobs @fireodo
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                                      @fireodo Hi! The fins feel warm to the touch. Isn't that an indication that the heat transfer is ok?

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                                        fireodo @bokolobs
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                                        @bokolobs said in Anyrevo fanless appliance hitting >60 C, is this normal?:

                                        The fins feel warm to the touch. Isn't that an indication that the heat transfer is ok?

                                        Not quiet - :-) Of course there is a thermal dissipation even with bad Heatsink/Processor contact but I would give that a try when/if possible.
                                        PS. Can you post a foto of that machine? (or a link)

                                        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                        pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                        Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Mmm, the factory thermal paste/pad is often pretty poor on those cheap mini-PC devices. You will probably see some improvement repasting it with something of decent quality but you probably don't need to.

                                          Steve

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                                            nimrod @stephenw10
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                                            Not all appliances use thermal paste between CPU and heat sink. Some use thermal pads instead. I also saw combination of both. Some Qotom appliances have a thermal paste, small aluminium heat sink on top, and on top of that heat sink, thermal pad that touches metal case. Its true that cheaper appliances use very low quality thermal paste, but that is not worth repasting unless you are replacing it with high quality thermal grease like Thermal Grizzly. Even then, success may vary, because heat transfer mostly depends on how polished and flat is the surface that touches CPU die. On cheaper devices like Anyevo and Topton that surface is very rough. There are even cheaper Chinese brands like XCY and BebePC that dont even bother scraping the paint. And because of that, you dont have direct contact between CPU die and heat sink. This is why those devices die prematurely even if you repaste it with high quality grease.

                                            Always go for genuine Netgate device, or, if thats not an option, go for Yanling/MiniSys/Protectli/Qotom devices. They are properly made, they have waranty and technical support.

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