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    • K
      Kempain
      last edited by

      Anyone experiencing this issue got anywhere with fixing it?
      I've tried reverting to OOTB DNS settings but still experience the same issue.

      I'm going to try a full re-install tonight to see if that helps at all.

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        tentpiglet
        last edited by

        I am also encountering this problem with DNS running on a pfSense VM running on my Proxmox server. Randomly hostnames, like facebook.com, will stop resolving, and then start up again after a brief period of time. No rhyme or reason. No pattern I can find.

        As a temporary workaround, I installed a pihole container on proxmox to provide DNS services to my LAN, serve the pihole DNS address to my clients via DHCP. No issues at all after that, everything works fine.

        Definitely something in the pfSense DNS.

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          Mikymike82
          last edited by

          I encountered the same issues wit the upgrade to 22.05. After trying some suggestions ont this forum topic and reverting back after comming to the conlusion that noting realy resorted the problem, i have enabled the option: DNS Query Forwarding. After i set this my problems seemed to have been resolved. Any other setting is set to the standard "pfsense" defaults.

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          • GertjanG
            Gertjan @Mikymike82
            last edited by

            @mikymike82 @Kempain @tentpiglet

            If you have to forward to some DNS resolver then the quality of your DNS depends on what this DNS server is answering you.

            If you decide to use the pfSense default DNS setting, pfSense resolves for you using the 13 ( ! ) available root servers, then DNS will work fine.
            I can tell, as I'm using the settings Netgate proposes by default : never had an issue for the last 10+ years.

            These settings (first and third) are not default :

            fb188b8f-cc1e-4783-bb7f-bb4ed43ca9c5-image.png

            "for historical reasons".

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              tentpiglet @Gertjan
              last edited by

              @gertjan

              My pfSense DNS resolver settings were the 'default' ones provided out of the box. I made no special modifications. DNS resolution was incredibly unstable.

              Switching to the pi-hole container resolved my issues.

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @tentpiglet
                last edited by

                @tentpiglet said in Slow DNS after 22.05:

                DNS resolution was incredibly unstable.

                Do you have IPv6? Other thread around here seems that setting unbound not to use IPv6 in its queries has helped..

                server:
                do-ip6: no
                

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                • GertjanG
                  Gertjan @tentpiglet
                  last edited by Gertjan

                  @tentpiglet said in Slow DNS after 22.05:

                  pfSense VM running on my Proxmox server

                  22.05 or 2.6.0 ?

                  UNstable means :
                  You found it 'not running', and no process 'unbound' was present when you list processes ?
                  Or the process unbound was there, but didn't answer ?
                  An nslookup from a PC on a LAN failed ?

                  C:\Users\gwkro>nslookup
                  Server default :   pfSense.main.net
                  Address:  192.168.1.1
                  
                  > facebook.com
                  Server :   pfSense.main.net
                  Address:  192.168.1.1
                  
                  Réponse ne faisant pas autorité :
                  Nom :    facebook.com
                  Addresses:  2a03:2880:f15a:83:face:b00c:0:25de
                            31.13.77.35
                  
                  >
                  

                  edit : how many times a day unbound restarts ?
                  Just ask your pfSense :

                  grep 'start' /var/log/resolver.log
                  ......
                  <30>1 2022-07-28T09:31:43.284577+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 60716 - - [60716:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-07-29T14:35:14.991568+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 47871 - - [47871:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-07-29T14:39:18.227880+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 94551 - - [94551:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-01T00:00:42.825487+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 7853 - - [7853:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-03T10:22:14.251824+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 20236 - - [20236:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-03T10:22:52.446334+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 82360 - - [82360:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-03T11:04:04.591690+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 88564 - - [88564:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-04T08:02:35.997090+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 14697 - - [14697:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-04T10:59:24.370800+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 59771 - - [59771:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-06T10:09:10.552646+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 67115 - - [67115:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-08T00:00:44.809011+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 9808 - - [9808:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  <30>1 2022-08-09T10:35:25.013811+02:00 pfSense.main.net unbound 44307 - - [44307:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
                  

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    Mikymike82 @Gertjan
                    last edited by

                    @gertjan My PFsense was until the upgrade to 22.05 in "standard config" I have never changed anything to my DNS. I even did a complete new installation to replicate the issue. 22.01 no problems and after upgrading to 22.05 my dns resolution was a complete mess.

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                      Jax
                      last edited by

                      Really, I think it's clear something broke in 22.05 and there's not any point in pretending it's a user problem. We've all experienced this and found some work arounds. Perhaps the maintainers should take a serious look at the code and try to figure out why so many users experienced the same phenomenon.

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                        Mikymike82 @tentpiglet
                        last edited by

                        @tentpiglet I think my solution might (temporarily) help you out with the DNS issues you and others in this topic are experiencing. 1,5 weeks of stable connection so far.

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @Mikymike82
                          last edited by Gertjan

                          @mikymike82 said in Slow DNS after 22.05:

                          my dns resolution was a complete mess

                          What about answering questions ?

                          Btw : I used a bare bone system (old Dell desktop, added a Quad Intel NIC) for nearly 10 years.
                          Since last Juin I'm using a SG 4100. Works great.
                          I have DNS statistics.

                          @jax said in Slow DNS after 22.05:

                          why so many users experienced the same phenomenon

                          120 thousand plus active users - all without DNS ?
                          That is, I can tell that my DNS works. edit : showing another way to see the resolver restarting.

                          @mikymike82 said in Slow DNS after 22.05:

                          22.01 no problems and after upgrading to 22.05

                          If you don't use IPv6, do what @johnpoz said.

                          Btw : I never used 22.01 - 22.01 was pre installed on my 4100, but I upgraded the day I received the unit.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Jax
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            @jax said in Slow DNS after 22.05:

                            We've all experienced

                            We are??? I am not having any issues..

                            why so many users experienced the same phenomenon.

                            So many users? like the handful posted here? Where are these users posting that they are having issues? The 1000's and 1000's of them that are running 22.05? All having issues? Some how I have seem to have missed that it was such a wide spread problem - very odd since I am on the board like all day pretty much every day.. And some how I have missed that its everyone having the issue..

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                              provels
                              last edited by provels

                              FWIW, I have had no problems on the VM and package set in my sig, clean built 2.6>22.01>22.05. I use IPv4/v6.

                              Peder

                              MAIN - pfSense+ 24.11-RELEASE - Adlink MXE-5401, i7, 16 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD. 500 GB HDD for SyslogNG
                              BACKUP - pfSense+ 23.01-RELEASE - Hyper-V Virtual Machine, Gen 1, 2 v-CPUs, 3 GB RAM, 8GB VHDX (Dynamic)

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
                                last edited by

                                @provels But how can that be - we clearly all having issues, maybe your having an issue and just don't know it ;) hehehehe

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                                • K
                                  Kempain
                                  last edited by

                                  Managed to capture some nslookups when DNS bombed out.
                                  It's really tricky to troubleshoot because it happens sporadically and randomly.

                                  Interestingly requests to pfSense timed out twice, then it only returned an IPv6 address without IPv4, then it returned both IPv6 and IPv4. Maybe this adds some credence to the issue being related to IPv6 but who knows. IPv6 was returned first in this particular case so disabling IPv6 would have likely caused more harm.

                                  I still want to check the unbound service to see how often that is restarting which I'll try do later to see if those 2 events line up.

                                  pfSense DNS issue.png

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Kempain
                                    last edited by

                                    @kempain said in Slow DNS after 22.05:

                                    I still want to check the unbound service to see how often that is restarting which I'll try do later to see if those 2 events line up.

                                    Also simple enough to just see how long its been running..

                                    [22.05-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf status
                                    version: 1.15.0
                                    verbosity: 1
                                    threads: 4
                                    modules: 2 [ validator iterator ]
                                    uptime: 333105 seconds
                                    options: control(ssl)
                                    unbound (pid 13952) is running...
                                    [22.05-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
                                    

                                    So mine has been up 333K seconds, or getting close to 4 days.. Last time I posted it was like 10 days, another 6 days. I tend to restart it when doing something for some thread, where they need an option or something - think last one someone was asking how to block youtube, etc.

                                    But you have no purposely restarted unbound/pfsense and your status shows that its only been up a short amount of time - something is wrong.

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                                      Kempain @johnpoz
                                      last edited by

                                      Cheers @johnpoz

                                      So looks like mine is restarting relatively regularly.

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                                      • Cool_CoronaC
                                        Cool_Corona @Kempain
                                        last edited by

                                        590ff612-b03d-4008-bf5e-b0cd5afba061-billede.png

                                        Unbound on 2.5.2

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                                          last edited by

                                          @cool_corona @Kempain 300 some seconds unbound being up, doesn't bode well for caching name server ;)

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                                          • Cool_CoronaC
                                            Cool_Corona @johnpoz
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz How to track all unbound restarts?

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