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      johnnybinator @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz I have no PIVD set. No Native VLAN. Just straight Trunk. on the switch or the Host. I'm sure of it.

      interface ethernet 1/25
      description sm3_10G
      switchport mtu 9216
      switchport mode trunk
      switchport trunk allowed vlan all
      ipv6 nd ra suppress

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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        @johnnybinator said in IPv6 Question:

        Just straight Trunk

        And what switch allows that? If there was no native, then any untagged traffic wouldn't go anywhere - so clearly that is not what is happening.

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          johnnybinator @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz Clearly there's nothing clear about it.

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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            @johnnybinator if pfsense is handing you IPv6 address on vlan 11

            LAN (lan) -> ix0.11 -> v4: 10.200.0.254/24

            Then the traffic is coming to pfsense on vlan 11, how it got there would be a switch config thing. Or a client config thing.. Pfsense isn't going to say oh untagged traffic, let me put that on my ix0.11 interface..

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnnybinator
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              @johnnybinator

              Is that the trunk port that connects to pfSense or where you're connecting the client?
              Or is that the same port somehow?

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                johnnybinator @stephenw10
                last edited by johnnybinator

                @stephenw10 that’s the switch port that connects to pfSense. I think what I’m going to do next is plug a host directly into the PF sense interface.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Um.... so how are you connecting a client to it now?

                  The problem is almost certainly in the switch config for the port the client is on.

                  Steve

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                    johnnybinator @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 ummm sooo….

                    As I’m writing this, I have a switch connected. What I was think would solve this lovely chat is if I put a host directly on the pfSense trunk.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Yes, that would certainly confirm if there really is something in pfSense allowing IPv6 only to leak from a VLAN to the parent.

                      I was just confused as to how it was connected when you were testing before. I may have misread it but I thought you had two trunk connections on the switch (presumably to another switch or an AP maybe) and were connecting the host to the other one.

                      Steve

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 said in IPv6 Question:

                        allowing IPv6 only to leak from a VLAN to the parent.

                        But that is not what he is saying, he is saying its leaking without a tag to tagged interface..

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Well the fact he can actually use that IP on the host implies it's going both ways which is far more unusual.

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            @stephenw10 if it was some sort of crazy leak then yeah..

                            But makes complete sense if the pvid on the port is vlan 11.. Other than saying its only ipv6.. But maybe the device is only requesting IPv6 because he turned ipv4 off on it, etc .etc.

                            What is more likely, a misconfig on the switch port with a pvid, which pretty much every switch on the planet will set, even with a trunk setting.. Normally you set this to a dead vlan in cisco land.

                            Or pfsense somehow saying oh look at this untagged traffic, here let my vlan 11 interface process that. Oh then let me send it out untagged so the client can get the answer ;)

                            But again switch is set to not allow untagged.

                            I have no PIVD set. No Native VLAN. Just straight Trunk

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                              johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz There is no PIVD set. No native VLAN. That's the whole point of the post for the start.

                              Switch port that is connected to pfSense:

                              interface ethernet 3/26
                              description To PfSense
                              switchport mtu 9216
                              switchport ingress-filtering disable
                              switchport mode trunk
                              switchport trunk allowed vlan all
                              ipv6 nd ra suppress

                              Switch port connected to the host:

                              interface ethernet 3/20
                              description NFS Server
                              switchport mtu 9216
                              switchport ingress-filtering disable
                              switchport mode trunk
                              switchport trunk allowed vlan all
                              ipv6 nd ra suppress

                              Switch port configured for a different host, with PVID, that is working as expected:

                              nterface ethernet 3/24
                              description To TV Switch
                              no capabilities 10half
                              no capabilities 10full
                              no capabilities 100half
                              no capabilities 100full
                              switchport mtu 9216
                              switchport mode trunk
                              switchport trunk native vlan 11
                              switchport trunk allowed vlan all
                              ipv6 nd ra suppress

                              This is what is perplexing. In this configuration, the host connected to 3/20, booting from the install media, gets an IPv6 address from the subnet tied to VLAN 11. As of yet, still unexplained. I mentioned in another post, I can temporarily connect the same host to the pfSense port directly, eliminating the switch. That will determine whether it is my switch or not. I can most likely get to it this week, if anyone's really biting their nails over this.

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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                                @johnnybinator said in IPv6 Question:

                                switchport mode trunk
                                switchport trunk allowed vlan all

                                How do you think there is no pvid there? Cisco requires a pvid on a trunk port.. If you try and remove vlan 1, it sets 4095P.. In cisco land if you do not want pvid to be default vlan.. Then you set the native to a dead vlan..

                                There is some other tricks you can try with setting the port to general mode..

                                But best practice in ciscoland has always been to set a dead vlan as the pvid on the trunk..

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                                  johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz this isn’t Cisco. But I get your point. I hadn’t thought of setting native to a dead VLAN. That would solve the problem. I’m going to give it a try. Thanks.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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                                    @johnnybinator what switch is it exactly? I have worked with many a switches over the years. But mostly cisco for sure - but I would be curious to look at the manual for a switch that drops all untagged on trunk..

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                                      johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz it’s an fs.com s390024t. It’s 24port copper with 4 sfp+, fabless. I bought it for the silence.

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @johnnybinator
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                                        @johnnybinator said in IPv6 Question:

                                        s390024t

                                        Well quick look over - sure seems like trunk will have a pvid to me..

                                        Switch(config)#show interface brief ethernet 0/0/1

                                        Can we see that for your interface, this would show the pvid and or utvlan

                                        So unless you did something with ingress filtering like
                                        "ingress acceptable-frame tagged" or something that would remove that.. Trunk ports always have a default pvid.. And do something with untagged. This is normally put onto the default vlan of the switch.

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                                          johnnybinator @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz
                                          Looks like native VLAN is one when you don't specify. I did not know that. I used to do:

                                          switchport trunk allowed vlan all and then swithport trunk remove 1 to shut down VLAN 1 as I am not using it at all.

                                          But I stopped doing that in some troubleshooting step I was doing a while back and have not put it back. This problem with a host with a trunk port getting an IPv6 address from VLAN11 persisted through that change. I'm going to create a dead VLAN and set the native VLAN to that and see what happens. I'm pretty confident that will fix this problem.

                                          s3900l.johnnyb.dev-1#show int configuration eth 3/26
                                          Name : To PfSense
                                          Port Admin : Up
                                          Speed-duplex Capabilities : 10Gfull
                                          Nego-Speed-duplex : 10Gfull
                                          Flow Control : Disabled
                                          VLAN Trunking : Disabled
                                          MAC Learning : Enabled
                                          Link-Status Trap : Disabled
                                          Media Type : None
                                          MTU : 9216
                                          Broadcast Threshold : Disabled
                                          Multicast Threshold : Disabled
                                          Unknown Unicast Threshold : Disabled
                                          Broadcast Block : Disabled
                                          Unknown Multicast Block : Disabled
                                          Unknown Unicast Block : Disabled
                                          Ingress Rate Limit : Disabled, 10000000 kbits/second
                                          Egress Rate Limit : Disabled, 10000000 kbits/second
                                          VLAN Mode : Trunk
                                          Vlan Ingress filtering : Disabled
                                          Native VLAN : 1
                                          GVRP Status : Disabled
                                          VLAN : 1(u), 6(t), 7(t), 8(t), 10(t)
                                          11(t), 12(t), 13(t), 14(t), 20(t)
                                          30(t), 40(t), 41(t), 50(t), 60(t)
                                          70(t), 80(t), 82(t), 90(t), 100(t)
                                          110(t), 120(t), 121(t), 122(t), 130(t)
                                          140(t), 150(t), 151(t), 152(t), 160(t)
                                          170(t), 180(t), 190(t), 200(t), 210(t)
                                          300(t), 400(t), 500(t), 600(t), 700(t)
                                          800(t), 900(t), 999(t)
                                          Forbidden VLAN :
                                          QinQ Status : Disabled
                                          QinQ Mode : Normal
                                          QinQ TPID : 8100 (Hex)

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            What does eth 3/20 show, where the host was connected?

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