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    pfSense won't get IP from Frontier Fiber.

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      You will still require a switch to strip the tags if they are sending vlan0 tagged traffic.

      Steve

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        random_pawn @stephenw10
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        My concern is not getting it to work if we take the plunge and losing money. Probably can get it to work, but I cannot get any answers from Frontier about what their network does here. No surprise, these companies treat people like cattle anyway. If you read their website about the eero, they are all like you have to use it blah blah blah. The fine print says you have to sign with Amazon account too (lol, what??).

        Anyway, I found so many posts out there regarding this. This one was most interesting. One person says a linux router distro works out of the box (did not say which). Another said Proxmox worked. My pfsense is on Hyper-V, so hopefully Hyper-V will handle it if it is there (back up is on the Netgate appliance though). Otherwise, I will be finagling two of my SFP+ 10 Gb ports for their own little VLAN.

        What is it with these telecomm companies pushing half-brained services? Regulation is a joke lol.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Hmm, not sure if I've seen Hyper-V used with vlan0 tags. There's a pretty good chance that would strip the tags in the vswitch though.

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            Jarhead @stephenw10
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            I have a couple of Frontier installs going through a managed switch and they work fine. Yours will too.
            You won't be using the sfp+ ports though, all copper since you'll have to use their ONT.

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              random_pawn @Jarhead
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              Good to have options. These are combo SFP+ ports supporting 10 Gbe. My pfsense box uses one already using a copper module. Although I bet Hyper-V will handle it as is.

              The waiting game now... Have to wait for construction in the neighborhood first.

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                q54e3w @random_pawn
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                Just had Frontier 1gbps service installed with the new black ONT. Engineer connected it to my pfSense 2.5.2 routers WAN port replacing my Spectrum S33 modem and it picked up a public WAN address without hiccup or any VLAN0 messing.

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                  scottv
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                  Anyone figure out how enable the PfSense box to get an IP address on the WAN port for Frontier Fiber?

                  I also have a White Frontier ONT and an Arris NVG468MQ router they provided. My Pfsense box has never been able to grab a WAN IP address unless the Arris router is in front of it. If I plug my Mac or other PCs directly to the ONT they can obtain a WAN IP without a problem without the Arris router.

                  I just recently upgraded to the 2GB service but the tech wasn't trained or didn't know that you needed new hardware so I'm still waiting for the new hardware that supports 2GB connections; however, I have a new PfSense box from Protecli that supports 2.5GB connections and a Zyxel 2.5GB unmanaged switch, so I thought I would again try to plug the ONT directly into the PfSense box but it still won't grab an IP address on the WAN port.

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                    Jarhead @scottv
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                    @scottv
                    You have a few options.
                    Search the forum for vlan0.

                    There's a script you can use, you can put a switch in between the ONT and pfSense or you can put their router in bridge mode depending on which they give you.

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                      rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Jarhead
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                      @jarhead said in pfSense won't get IP from Frontier Fiber.:

                      There's a script you can use

                      Should be noted here the script is technically side-loading and if you have a TAC support subscription that can possibly result in not receiving support. Not an absolute but an advisory.

                      Ryan
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                        Jarhead @rcoleman-netgate
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                        @rcoleman-netgate Can he have a TAC subscription with a Protectli? Thought that was just for Netgate equipment.

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                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Jarhead
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                          @jarhead TAC support is available on any system that runs a current version of pfSense (CE or Plus) and can be purchased at any time at https://shop.netgate.com/collections/support

                          Ryan
                          Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
                          Requesting firmware for your Netgate device? https://go.netgate.com
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                          Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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                            Jarhead @rcoleman-netgate
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                            @rcoleman-netgate Good to know. Thanks.

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                              scottv @Jarhead
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                              @jarhead
                              Thanks for the options; however, I found an easier 3rd option which is switching to OPNsense. I am up and running on my own equipment without Frontier's router in Bridge mode and only spent a couple hours work to install and configure to my needs. Now I am running at 2000Mbps and don't even need to wait for Frontier's new equipment and tech to show up. I am sure they will want to install it whenever it gets in and I will just remove it after they leave...

                              Will re-consider pfSense once it's fixed but my needs are pretty simple and it's just as easy for me to switch to a different solution.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                It's fixed in 2.7 snapshots if you want to try it.

                                https://www.pfsense.org/snapshots/

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                                  scottv @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  I will update the pfSense install to 2.7 snapshots on my FW Vault with 1gb connections to see how that works. Thanks for the info.

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                                    scottv @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10

                                    Is there a specific setting in 2.7.0.a.20221104.0600 to enable this to work?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      There should not be. Not just to accept priority tagged DHCP offers.

                                      If you are using igb or em NICs you will need to disabled hardware VLAN tagging but I think you said you have 2.5G NICs? If those are igc they should need anything. If they are re it's possible they might need something I've not tested it there.

                                      Steve

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                                        scottv @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10

                                        Okay so I have 2 Protectli FW4 boxes one has the 1G connections and the other has the 2.5G. I reconfigured the 1G box for version 2.7 since the 2G box was working on OPNsense. I see that the 1G box has as a different problem related to the hardware VLAN tagging so I will re-configure the 2G box on v2.7 which has the igc NICS and see how that works... I didn't realize the box with the 1G NICs had a different problem that upgrading wouldn't fix. Never a dull moment!

                                        Scott

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Well you can still test usefully by disabling hardware VLAN filtering on that NIC. For example:

                                          ifconfig igb0 -vlanhwfilter
                                          

                                          See: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12821

                                          Steve

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                                            scottv @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10

                                            I'm up and running on my Protectli FW4C with 2.5G NICs using the latest dev version. Speedtest is showing 1200Mbps down and 1600Mbps up on my 2G service.

                                            Will try out disabling the VLAN filtering on the FW4B tomorrow.

                                            Thanks!

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