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      Yoe777
      last edited by

      I have a NAS with SMB share on a separate interface than my devices that have firewall rules setup to access it. There are NO issues with me accessing the NAS shares via IP address from any interface however when attempting to access the NAS shares via SMB name in Linux or Windows it fails.

      I have enabled the DNS Forwarder, DHCP Registration and Static DHCP.

      What else am I missing?

      Thanks,

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Yoe777
        last edited by johnpoz

        @yoe777 said in Can't access SMB share via SMB name but can access via IP.:

        access the NAS shares via SMB name

        you mean via just host vs a fqdn?

        Like nas vs nas.something.tld ?

        If that is the case and your nas is on another network then your client, that is to be expected - broadcasting for names doesn't work across vlans.

        If your wanting to access via name, then you need to make sure your search suffix on your client auto adds your domain when doing a query.. Or just use the fqdn..

        example, if I ping just nas, it comes back as fully qualified.

        $ ping nas
        
        Pinging nas.local.lan [192.168.9.10] with 32 bytes of data:
        Reply from 192.168.9.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
        

        Because my client auto adds that in the dns query.

        $ ipconfig /all                                            
                                                                   
        Windows IP Configuration                                   
                                                                   
           Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : i9-win              
           Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : local.lan           
           Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast           
           IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                  
           WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                  
           DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan           
        

        See the DNS Suffix Search List.

        if I set debug in nslookup, notice what it actually asked for, even though I only used the hostname nas

        $ nslookup                                                                                 
        Default Server:  pi.hole                                                                   
        Address:  192.168.3.10                                                                     
                                                                                                   
        > set debug                                                                                
        > nas                                                                                      
        Server:  pi.hole                                                                           
        Address:  192.168.3.10                                                                     
                                                                                                   
        ------------                                                                               
        Got answer:                                                                                
            HEADER:                                                                                
                opcode = QUERY, id = 2, rcode = NOERROR                                            
                header flags:  response, want recursion, recursion avail.                          
                questions = 1,  answers = 1,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0               
                                                                                                   
            QUESTIONS:                                                                             
                nas.local.lan, type = A, class = IN                                                
            ANSWERS:                                                                               
            ->  nas.local.lan                                                                      
                internet address = 192.168.9.10                                                    
                ttl = 3383 (56 mins 23 secs)                                                       
                                                                                                   
        ------------                                                                               
        Non-authoritative answer:                                                                  
        ------------                                                                               
        Got answer:                                                                                
            HEADER:                                                                                
                opcode = QUERY, id = 3, rcode = NOERROR                                            
                header flags:  response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion avail.            
                questions = 1,  answers = 0,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0               
                                                                                                   
            QUESTIONS:                                                                             
                nas.local.lan, type = AAAA, class = IN                                             
                                                                                                   
        ------------                                                                               
        Name:    nas.local.lan                                                                     
        Address:  192.168.9.10                                                                     
                                                                                                   
        >                                                                                          
        

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          Yoe777
          last edited by

          I am not using VLANS I am using physical interfaces with firewall rules allowing access to the NAS server.

          My ipconfig /all output:

          b3971203-6575-498c-a788-c6cf31b7a312-image.png

          If I try to access my NAS in explorer via:
          "\nas\sharename"

          I get this error:

          985234dc-f9fb-41d6-bda4-889410d3b0b1-image.png

          Or Linux via:
          "smb://nas/sharename"

          I get this error:

          c5d1edfb-bcad-46bc-a469-eaea011dbe20-image.png

          Could it be because my Primary Dns Suffix is missing?

          There are no issues connecting via IP.

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Yoe777
            last edited by

            @yoe777 said in Can't access SMB share via SMB name but can access via IP.:

            sing physical interfaces with firewall

            Same thing, its a different network..

            if you ping nas - does it come back as nas.local.lan? Broadcasting for just a hostname or netbios name doesn't work across networks.. They have to be in the same network for that to work.

            Use the fqdn nas.local.lan as you have shown your using local.lan as well..

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              Jarhead @johnpoz
              last edited by

              Or add it to your hosts file on the computer.

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                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
                last edited by

                @johnpoz pfSense is adding it for me again on its own? So I will never get that, when it is working or not.

                PS C:\Users\Bobby> nslookup Rebel12
                Server:  pfsense.home.arpa
                Address:  192.168.10.1
                
                Name:    Rebel12.home.arpa
                Addresses:  192.168.11.20
                          192.168.9.20
                
                
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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @bob-dig home.arpa is the new default. I had set local.lan long time ago and have not completely moved to it yet.

                  But yes your domain should be added to your windows clients via dhcp

                  Why is your fqdn coming back with 2 ips, that is not ideal.

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                    Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz Ah ok, that was the difference, when I was not using DHCP, thx.

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                      Yoe777 @Yoe777
                      last edited by Yoe777

                      @yoe777 Screenshot 2022-11-12 at 14-30-43 Can't access SMB share via SMB name but can access via IP.png

                      My main issue is a media player trying to access the broadcasted hostname, I cannot lookup shares via IP on it. Is there a way to enter a static entry directly in pfsense that will redirect the hostname to the IP?

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                        Yoe777 @Yoe777
                        last edited by Yoe777

                        @yoe777

                        I am a little bit closer by creating a Host Override Static entry under ServicesDNS -> ResolverGeneral -> Settings. My windows machines and linux can access my NAS via hostname now from manual searching for it.

                        My media player still is not seeing the share on my NAS because the Hostname broadcast is not passing over the interface. You cannot manually place an search entry it only lists the broadcasted names.

                        Any suggestions as a work around?

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Yoe777
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          @yoe777 your media player - which is what exactly is most likely doing some sort of discovery - that is not going to work on a different network.

                          What are you trying play? I use my plex specifically on a different network than my players.. It doesn't have to use discovery - it uses a fqdn to know where the server is.

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                            MLH01 @Yoe777
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                            @yoe777 I had a similar issue with accessing my NAS smb shares. My NAS is running TrueNAS CORE. Like you, I added a host override in pfSense (under Services > DNS Resolver > General Settings).

                            NAS details:
                            Network: VLAN10 (192.168.10.x)
                            Hostname: truenas
                            Parent domain: local

                            I was then able to access and map the shares on my Windows computers connected on my default LAN (192.168.1.x) using \\truenas.local[sharename]. I was able to access the shares on my Mac mini the same way.

                            I use MediaPortal for my media server, also located on the default LAN. I still needed to manually set the media source paths (using \\truenas.local[sharename]) as it wasn't able to locate truenas shares on the network by itself. Let me know if you have the same media server and I will post instructions.

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                              MLH01 @MLH01
                              last edited by MLH01

                              Note: I meant to write \\truenas.local[backslash][sharename] above. The backslashes don't seem to work...

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                                skogs @Yoe777
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                                @yoe777
                                Frequently those media player apps on a roku or even the service/host discovery on windows doesn't use SMB to find the information. It uses multicast mdns/avahi/servicediscovery/bonjour/whatever. It is expecting to find things automatically with a 224.x.x.x broadcast ip.
                                You might need to add a rule for networks...not sure if the stopping point is pfsense or some other host based firewall but the idea is:

                                src: any/lan
                                destination: 224.0.0.251
                                destination port 5353

                                (at least that is the mdns traffic I see on my network...guessing yours is similar.

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                                  rcoleman-netgate Netgate @skogs
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                                  @skogs opening 5353 in that manner won't pass multicast traffic -- that's unroutable.

                                  AVAHI will do mdns passing between interfaces.

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                                    skogs @rcoleman-netgate
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                                    @rcoleman-netgate
                                    yaya ^^ that thing.

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