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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by stephenw10

      That additional power consumption may not be the CPU of course. 3W seems like a lot for states below C3 which is already very low power. As I said I'm not sure I've seen lower C states reported by FreeBSD. It might not be possible.

      You have enabled powerd I assume? Though the provided P-states are swamped by C-state reductions I found.

      This page, though now a bit dated, was very useful when I was poking at this stuff.
      https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption

      Steve

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        mrsunfire
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        Got an i7-1165G7 but I never get to see C2 or C3. All I get is this:

        dev.cpu.3.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
        dev.cpu.3.cx_usage_counters: 46820 0 0
        dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 171us
        dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1
        dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
        dev.cpu.2.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
        dev.cpu.2.cx_usage_counters: 46701 0 0
        dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 141us
        dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1
        dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
        dev.cpu.1.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
        dev.cpu.1.cx_usage_counters: 46400 0 0
        dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 149us
        dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1
        dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
        dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
        dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 56149 0 0
        dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% last 237us
        dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
        dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
        

        Did try the settings written here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption nothing helped. BIOS C-states enabled of course.

        What am I missing?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          You have to set dev.cpu.X.cx_lowest to C3 if you want it to use them. All 4 cores are restricted to C1 only in that output.

          Steve

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            mrsunfire @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 I've set it to Cmax. Is that wrong?

            Screenshot 2022-11-20 084515.jpg

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              mvikman
              last edited by

              I added this to System Tunables
              feb4067a-7eff-4260-bc14-af95c904167e-image.png

              "sysctl dev.cpu | grep cx" showes this, so I guess it's working

              dev.cpu.3.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
              dev.cpu.3.cx_usage_counters: 128 166 6341
              dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 1.92% 2.50% 95.56% last 2086us
              dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C3
              dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/151 C3/3/256
              dev.cpu.2.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
              dev.cpu.2.cx_usage_counters: 174 154 6615
              dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 2.50% 2.21% 95.27% last 32us
              dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C3
              dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/151 C3/3/256
              dev.cpu.1.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
              dev.cpu.1.cx_usage_counters: 221 220 16075
              dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 1.33% 1.33% 97.32% last 368us
              dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C3
              dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/151 C3/3/256
              dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
              dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 142 210 13944
              dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 0.99% 1.46% 97.53% last 14974us
              dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C3
              dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/151 C3/3/256
              

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                mrsunfire @mvikman
                last edited by mrsunfire

                @mvikman Thanks! For pfSense hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest is the right command. I've set it to Cmax.

                Did you set anything for "kern.hz"? My CPU seems to stay mostly at C1.

                dev.cpu.3.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
                dev.cpu.3.cx_usage_counters: 411155 21225 1607
                dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 94.73% 4.89% 0.37% last 145us
                dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C8
                dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
                dev.cpu.2.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
                dev.cpu.2.cx_usage_counters: 427522 21371 1503
                dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 94.92% 4.74% 0.33% last 130us
                dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C8
                dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
                dev.cpu.1.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
                dev.cpu.1.cx_usage_counters: 434369 22616 1595
                dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 94.72% 4.93% 0.34% last 131us
                dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C8
                dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
                dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc C3/mwait/hwc
                dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 457227 29227 1425
                dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 93.71% 5.99% 0.29% last 191us
                dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C8
                dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
                

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Mmm, @mvikman's CPU must be very lightly used. Anything I've ever tried that on looks more like your output there, mostly in C1.

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                  • fireodoF
                    fireodo @mrsunfire
                    last edited by fireodo

                    @mrsunfire said in Supported CPU C-States:

                    @mvikman Thanks! For pfSense hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest is the right command. I've set it to Cmax.

                    Did you set anything for "kern.hz"? My CPU seems to stay mostly at C1.

                    If the operating system states:

                    dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/253 C3/3/1048
                    

                    why do you think you can go

                    dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C8
                    

                    below C3?

                    Just asking out of curiosity :-)

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      It won't ever go below 3 but I wouldn't expect it to hurt.

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                        mrsunfire @fireodo
                        last edited by

                        @fireodo C8 is max my CPU is supporting. I just set Cmax in system tunables. So I think the CPU decides the max limit even though FreeBSD only supports C3.

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                          mvikman @stephenw10
                          last edited by mvikman

                          @stephenw10 said in Supported CPU C-States:

                          Mmm, @mvikman's CPU must be very lightly used. Anything I've ever tried that on looks more like your output there, mostly in C1.

                          LOL yeah, it's just my home router and it's got a i5-6500, just haven't had time to dabble with pfblocker and such things yet 😆

                          @mrsunfire No, that was the only line I added.

                          Though I have PowerD set to Adaptive instead of HiAdaptive because HiAdaptive doesn't seem let CPU to throttle speed lower MHz...

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                          HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                          HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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