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    • msa1878M
      msa1878
      last edited by

      Good Morning!

      Need some help with allowing Wifi calling on a PFsense box 2.6. I placed this in a boarding school everything else works perfectly.
      wifi calling tunnel IPsec will not pass traffic

      Any suggestion would be great I have 238 wolves circling the camp. ;-)

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      • NollipfSenseN
        NollipfSense @msa1878
        last edited by

        @msa1878 Can you please show your IPSec and firewall setup?

        pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
        pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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          marvosa @msa1878
          last edited by marvosa

          @msa1878 I've never had this issue, but I've seen posts online that suggest going to System -> Advanced -> Firewall & NAT and switching the "Firewall Optimization Options" from Normal to Conservative has resolved this issue for others.

          Other posts have suggested that manually changing the "UDP Multiple" timeout setting from 60 to 900 may achieve the same result. Also located in System -> Advanced -> Firewall & NAT under the "State Timeouts" section.

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @msa1878
            last edited by

            @msa1878

            I use Wifi calling with pfSense and no problems here. Also, it's not plain IPSec. It's encapsulated in UDP, to get through NAT.

            Here is some info that may help:
            What are the firewall required ports for wifi-calling?

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            • chpalmerC
              chpalmer @msa1878
              last edited by

              You might need "static port" depending on your carrier as well..

              Triggering snowflakes one by one..
              Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                last edited by michmoor

                Because its reaching out over UDP:4500 , maybe firewall rules are blocking it?

                For example, my IoT vlan which my phone sits in has the following session. The rules for this vlan is pretty much any/any to the internet.

                8672bd66-b87a-4aab-9fa4-1783316a8e1a-image.png

                Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                  Tzvia
                  last edited by Tzvia

                  I remember when I had Sprint, I had to open a few ports for cell phone wifi calling... UDP ports 500, 4500, and 5061. I don't have an any-any rule so had to specify those. Check with your carrier, hopefully they can provide info on what they need open. I had to set 'Firewall Optimization' to conservative for Cisco Jabber 'soft-phone' calling and opened a handful of ports for that too, that I got from Cisco. Then work switched to Zoom phone, had to open a few more ports for that... So yea check with the carrier or soft-phone provider if there are high number ports that need to be open.
                  And to clarify, yes outbound ports... As I mentioned I have no any-any rule, and assumed same with the OP as he wouldn't need to open anything if he did...

                  Tzvia

                  Current build:
                  Hunsn/CWWK Pentium Gold 8505, 6x i226v 'micro firewall'
                  16 gigs ram
                  500gig WD Blue nvme
                  Using modded BIOS (enabled CSTATES)
                  PFSense 2.72-RELEASE
                  Enabled Intel SpeedShift
                  Snort
                  PFBlockerNG
                  LAN and 5 VLANS

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                    mikeisfly @marvosa
                    last edited by

                    @marvosa making this change is what worked for me.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Just to be clear you should never need to open inbound ports for this. If you are blocking outbound traffic you may need to open ports there.

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                      • msa1878M
                        msa1878 @NollipfSense
                        last edited by

                        @nollipfsense Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.10.17 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.10.36 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.10.48 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.11.04 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.11.22 AM.png

                        Thank you for any advanced help with this matter. as you can see I have tried every thing

                        TIm

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                          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @msa1878
                          last edited by

                          @msa1878 take one phone. Create an any/any rule for that one phone in your rules. Then see if WiFi calling works. See what states it creates using pftop.

                          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                          • msa1878M
                            msa1878 @michmoor
                            last edited by msa1878

                            @michmoor

                            Would this rule reside on the lan rule or wan or floating? this is what I added per your suggestion.

                            Tim

                            Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 11.05.52 AM.png

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                              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @msa1878
                              last edited by

                              @msa1878 I’m not understanding your rules. You have two rules that permit any/any. Just seeing that, WiFi calling should work.

                              Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                              Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                              Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                              Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                              JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                              • msa1878M
                                msa1878 @michmoor
                                last edited by

                                @michmoor

                                Removed the redundant rules shown.

                                Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 11.29.23 AM.png

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                                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                                  last edited by

                                  @msa1878 I just wanted you to put in a new rule with the source IP being the phone you want to test BUT is WiFi calling working?

                                  Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                  Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                  Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                  Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                  JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                    mikeisfly @msa1878
                                    last edited by

                                    @msa1878

                                    System -> Advance -> Firewall & NAT -> change Firewall Optimization Options to Conservative.

                                    This is what worked for me. I have Verizon wireless. Before I made this change it would be hit or miss. After the change everything is working as expected.

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                                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mikeisfly
                                      last edited by

                                      @mikeisfly interesting. I didn’t have to make any changes. I have VZW

                                      Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                      Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                      Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                      Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                      JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        You should not have any rules allowing that IPSec traffic inbound. So not on WAN or as Floating rules applied to WAN. All the IPSec connections for that are opened outbound.

                                        The wifi calling might be trying to use some hardcoded DNS which would be blocked by your rules.

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                                        • msa1878M
                                          msa1878 @michmoor
                                          last edited by

                                          @michmoor

                                          Haven't checked ...the day got away from me... I will let you know later.

                                          Thank you for your support in this

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                                          • msa1878M
                                            msa1878 @michmoor
                                            last edited by msa1878

                                            @michmoor

                                            I had a chance to look at this fully... my cellphone is 10.110.9.99 and I look at the pftop session and the cellphone doesn't even reach out to port 4500 or doesn't trigger a UDP port 4500 session

                                            I did make a rule directly allowing 10.110.8.99 cellphone to use port 4500.

                                            Screen Shot 2023-01-08 at 1.00.33 PM.png

                                            Any suggestions?

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