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    PFSENSE WIFI CALLING

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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott @msa1878
      last edited by

      @msa1878

      I use Wifi calling with pfSense and no problems here. Also, it's not plain IPSec. It's encapsulated in UDP, to get through NAT.

      Here is some info that may help:
      What are the firewall required ports for wifi-calling?

      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
      UniFi AC-Lite access point

      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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      • chpalmerC
        chpalmer @msa1878
        last edited by

        You might need "static port" depending on your carrier as well..

        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
          last edited by michmoor

          Because its reaching out over UDP:4500 , maybe firewall rules are blocking it?

          For example, my IoT vlan which my phone sits in has the following session. The rules for this vlan is pretty much any/any to the internet.

          8672bd66-b87a-4aab-9fa4-1783316a8e1a-image.png

          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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            Tzvia
            last edited by Tzvia

            I remember when I had Sprint, I had to open a few ports for cell phone wifi calling... UDP ports 500, 4500, and 5061. I don't have an any-any rule so had to specify those. Check with your carrier, hopefully they can provide info on what they need open. I had to set 'Firewall Optimization' to conservative for Cisco Jabber 'soft-phone' calling and opened a handful of ports for that too, that I got from Cisco. Then work switched to Zoom phone, had to open a few more ports for that... So yea check with the carrier or soft-phone provider if there are high number ports that need to be open.
            And to clarify, yes outbound ports... As I mentioned I have no any-any rule, and assumed same with the OP as he wouldn't need to open anything if he did...

            Tzvia

            Current build:
            Hunsn/CWWK Pentium Gold 8505, 6x i226v 'micro firewall'
            16 gigs ram
            500gig WD Blue nvme
            Using modded BIOS (enabled CSTATES)
            PFSense 2.72-RELEASE
            Enabled Intel SpeedShift
            Snort
            PFBlockerNG
            LAN and 5 VLANS

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              mikeisfly @marvosa
              last edited by

              @marvosa making this change is what worked for me.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Just to be clear you should never need to open inbound ports for this. If you are blocking outbound traffic you may need to open ports there.

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                • msa1878M
                  msa1878 @NollipfSense
                  last edited by

                  @nollipfsense Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.10.17 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.10.36 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.10.48 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.11.04 AM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 10.11.22 AM.png

                  Thank you for any advanced help with this matter. as you can see I have tried every thing

                  TIm

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                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @msa1878
                    last edited by

                    @msa1878 take one phone. Create an any/any rule for that one phone in your rules. Then see if WiFi calling works. See what states it creates using pftop.

                    Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                    Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                    JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                    • msa1878M
                      msa1878 @michmoor
                      last edited by msa1878

                      @michmoor

                      Would this rule reside on the lan rule or wan or floating? this is what I added per your suggestion.

                      Tim

                      Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 11.05.52 AM.png

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                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @msa1878
                        last edited by

                        @msa1878 I’m not understanding your rules. You have two rules that permit any/any. Just seeing that, WiFi calling should work.

                        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                        • msa1878M
                          msa1878 @michmoor
                          last edited by

                          @michmoor

                          Removed the redundant rules shown.

                          Screen Shot 2023-01-07 at 11.29.23 AM.png

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                            last edited by

                            @msa1878 I just wanted you to put in a new rule with the source IP being the phone you want to test BUT is WiFi calling working?

                            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                              mikeisfly @msa1878
                              last edited by

                              @msa1878

                              System -> Advance -> Firewall & NAT -> change Firewall Optimization Options to Conservative.

                              This is what worked for me. I have Verizon wireless. Before I made this change it would be hit or miss. After the change everything is working as expected.

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                                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @mikeisfly
                                last edited by

                                @mikeisfly interesting. I didn’t have to make any changes. I have VZW

                                Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  You should not have any rules allowing that IPSec traffic inbound. So not on WAN or as Floating rules applied to WAN. All the IPSec connections for that are opened outbound.

                                  The wifi calling might be trying to use some hardcoded DNS which would be blocked by your rules.

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                                  • msa1878M
                                    msa1878 @michmoor
                                    last edited by

                                    @michmoor

                                    Haven't checked ...the day got away from me... I will let you know later.

                                    Thank you for your support in this

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                                    • msa1878M
                                      msa1878 @michmoor
                                      last edited by msa1878

                                      @michmoor

                                      I had a chance to look at this fully... my cellphone is 10.110.9.99 and I look at the pftop session and the cellphone doesn't even reach out to port 4500 or doesn't trigger a UDP port 4500 session

                                      I did make a rule directly allowing 10.110.8.99 cellphone to use port 4500.

                                      Screen Shot 2023-01-08 at 1.00.33 PM.png

                                      Any suggestions?

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                                      • JKnottJ
                                        JKnott @msa1878
                                        last edited by

                                        @msa1878 said in PFSENSE WIFI CALLING:

                                        Any suggestions?

                                        Run packet capture, filtering on the IP or MAC address, to see what's happening.

                                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                        • chpalmerC
                                          chpalmer @msa1878
                                          last edited by chpalmer

                                          @msa1878

                                          Have you looked at your existing states and filtered them based on your phones IP address?

                                          Are all 238 of your wolves using the same carrier? They will probably be all a little different..

                                          Also- is your subnet big enough for all these "customers"? Some of them may not even be connecting if not..

                                          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                          • msa1878M
                                            msa1878 @chpalmer
                                            last edited by msa1878

                                            @chpalmer

                                            The system with 3.2 intel and 16 gigs of ram and 150 gig HD with. Public IP wan attached directly is working with 230 student logged on with maybe two devices between each of them during the day.

                                            On weeknights and weekends, it's about 80 students. Side note... I didn't notice this issue or received any reports of this issue until I turned on captive portal and require all students to authenticate against Google Gsuite secure Ldap services. I also installed snort and PFblocker and have since turn these off, except for the captive portal due to this issue. The campus has all sorts of carriers but Verizon is the primary Im dealing with for now.

                                            These add-ons should not have any reason why wifi calling shouldn't work.

                                            Someone correct me if I'm missing something

                                            Tim

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