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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Did you try allowing external DNS requests? Or logging blocked DNS requests?

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      • msa1878M
        msa1878 @mikeisfly
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        @mikeisfly

        I check that and it is set as you suggested.

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        • msa1878M
          msa1878 @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          We are using external dns services but I have the server rule allowing PFsense dns only and blocking all other dns server request just in case a student tries to change his dns to outwit my firewall.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Yes, I see that but if, for example, the wifi calling app is hard coded to use 8.8.8.8 if will fail. You should add DNS redirect as well as just blocking it to be sure.
            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/dns-redirect.html

            The fact you are not seeing any port 4500 traffic implies it's not even trying which could be a DNS problem. You should also check for port 500 traffic though.

            Steve

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in PFSENSE WIFI CALLING:

              Yes, I see that but if, for example, the wifi calling app is hard coded to use 8.8.8.8 if will fail.

              Assuming we're talking about the WiFi calling that's built into the phone, it might not need to use DNS. The IP address could be supplied directly by the carrier. I have not checked to see whether DNS is used or not.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Possible but I'd be very surprised if they were using hard coded IPs. It makes maintaining a network to support all those clients very inflexible.

                Denying external DNS is about the only non-standard thing happening here so I'd certainly test just allowing it.

                Steve

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10

                  I don't know about hard coded, but it could certainly be configured via the carrier. I'll have to check later about whether DNS is used.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @JKnott
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                    @jknott

                    I found dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com, which might have something to do with it.

                    host dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has address 142.251.33.170
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has address 142.251.41.74
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has address 172.217.165.10
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has address 142.251.32.74
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has address 142.251.41.42
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has address 172.217.1.10
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:400b:803::200a
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:400b:80f::200a
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:400b:80c::200a
                    dialercallinfolookup-pa.googleapis.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:400b:804::200a

                    host 142.251.32.74
                    74.32.251.142.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer yyz12s07-in-f10.1e100.net.

                    host 2607:f8b0:400b:804::200a
                    a.0.0.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.4.0.8.0.b.0.0.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer yyz10s20-in-x0a.1e100.net.

                    YYZ is the airport code for Toronto's Pearson airport, which is a few miles from here.

                    On the other hand, Google indicates it might be a spam or scan address.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                    • msa1878M
                      msa1878
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                      • msa1878M
                        msa1878 @msa1878
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                        @msa1878

                        OK good morning I am now truly stumped!

                        I have changed my DNS from the resolver to the DNS forwarder and still nothing. I can see my cellphone connect to port 500 using PFTOP. No port 4500 sessions at all. I have removed every rule thinking it was blocking. Nothing!

                        I even tried a different WIFI access point ... nothing?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Ok do you see any replies on port 500?

                          What do the port 500 states look like? If it's not using a static source port for the outbound NAT on port 500 that can cause it to fail. Though anything recent should not.

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                          • msa1878M
                            msa1878 @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10

                            Port 500 looks good and port 4500 nothing see attachments

                            Screen Shot 2023-01-09 at 2.55.55 PM.png Screen Shot 2023-01-09 at 2.56.17 PM.png

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              I would just use the state table so you can see the translations directly.

                              What IP is the phone?

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                              • msa1878M
                                msa1878 @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10

                                OK.... so i figured out what is stopping the wifi calling udp 4500 not working... As I mention few posts back...we are using the captive portal to authenticate the students. I just turned off the capture port a few minutes ago and the wifi calling started working.

                                We need the captive portal back...what is the captive portal doing to stop wifi calling?

                                Screen Shot 2023-01-09 at 6.58.47 PM.png

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                                • msa1878M
                                  msa1878 @msa1878
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                                  @msa1878

                                  OK...as i mentioned, I am using the captive portal to make all students authenticate their devices. I just turned it off since I had exhausted all other avenues of solutions. and guess what.....Now wifi calling works.

                                  Any chance someone would know why the captive portal would not allow all traffic after authentication?

                                  Screen Shot 2023-01-09 at 6.58.47 PM.png

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Hmm, interesting. I would still look at the state tables in each case so you can see the states and NAT being applied and on which interfaces.

                                    I assume you are testing after phones have logged into the captive portal?

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                                    • msa1878M
                                      msa1878
                                      last edited by msa1878

                                      FOUND THE ISSUE.

                                      PF 2.6 captive portal has been written with missing code in the default build. A fix was posted 11 months ago. CP was coded only to allow TCP traffic everything else was blocked.

                                      Beginners would never have known.
                                      A big Thank you to all that helped...

                                      https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12834

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                                      • JKnottJ
                                        JKnott @msa1878
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                                        @msa1878

                                        What you could do is put the WiFi calling on a VLAN and separate SSID, to avoid Captive Portal.

                                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Ah of course! Yes I should have known that, sorry. I guess I've been testing 2.7/23.01 for too long, where it's fixed.

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                                          • GertjanG
                                            Gertjan @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10
                                            On the other hand, "2.6.0" introduced the pfSense "System_Patches" package with some pre build in 'must have' patches. A thing is : it should be outlined somewhere that package is a must have, for any pfSense version.
                                            The issue that the captive portal was 'TCP' only for a while was such a show stopper that a solution and patch was found right from the start.

                                            I left 2.6.0 also myself as Netgate device uses 'Plus', so I'm not entirely sure right now (I don't recall).

                                            Also : the topic is wrongly placed and named.
                                            Wifi calling works just fine.
                                            BUT : It only fails when the captive portal is used. So its a portal (forum) issue.

                                            This is the perfect description of the issue :

                                            @msa1878 said in PFSENSE WIFI CALLING:

                                            Any chance someone would know why the captive portal would not allow all traffic after authentication?

                                            The captive allows what you allow it to pass, using the GUI firewall rules.
                                            A rule with IPv4 any protocol any port any address will pass everything.
                                            The TCP only issue would have popped out of my mind right away.

                                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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