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    SG-2100 23.01 update failed

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      mspeculatrix
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      Naive question here: Given that I'm experiencing problems with the eMMC, is there any way I can log into a minimal BSD environment via the console and try reformatting that drive?

      The SG-2100 is way out of warranty and effectively bricked at the moment, so it's not like I can make the situation worse.

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        bigsy @mspeculatrix
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        @mspeculatrix If the eMMC is dead, will adding an m.2 sata drive not work for a fresh installation?

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @mspeculatrix
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          @mspeculatrix you can reinstall using the firmware link I posted above.

          Ps
          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/index.html

          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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            mspeculatrix @SteveITS
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            @steveits I've already tried using 23.01 and 22.05. No dice.

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              mspeculatrix @bigsy
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              @bigsy I hadn't thought of that. Might be worth dropping a few pennies on an M.2 SSD just to find out. If it doesn't work, I'm sure I can find a use for it.

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                keyser Rebel Alliance @mspeculatrix
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                @mspeculatrix You can, and it will work. Once a M.2 SATA drive is fitted in it, the mmc0 wil effectively be disabled. It might prolong the boot phase though if the mmc0 stops responding all together.

                Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                  mspeculatrix @keyser
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                  @keyser Ok, thanks guys. SSD ordered from Amazon. I've already replaced the SG-2100, but it would be good to have a backup.

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                    mcury @mspeculatrix
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                    @mspeculatrix https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/23-01.html#errata-known-hardware-issues

                    It seems that the PCI BUS won't work when using SG-2100 and 23.01.

                    dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                      keyser Rebel Alliance @mcury
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                      @mcury Not in issue regarding the M.2 Sata port. Its the SOC’s M.2 SATA feature that drives this.

                      Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                        keyser Rebel Alliance @mspeculatrix
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                        @mspeculatrix said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                        @keyser Ok, thanks guys. SSD ordered from Amazon. I've already replaced the SG-2100, but it would be good to have a backup.

                        Did you notice the “speciel” keyed M.2 SATA device needed for the SG-2100? Standard M.2 SATA keyed drives cannot be mounted.

                        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                          keyser Rebel Alliance @mspeculatrix
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                          @mspeculatrix They are not hard to find, you just need to be aware of this.

                          Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                            mcury @keyser
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                            @keyser said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                            Not in issue regarding the M.2 Sata port. Its the SOC’s M.2 SATA feature that drives this.

                            hm, I thought that the M.2 port was PCI and not Sata. Disregard my last post then.
                            Thanks for the info keyser.

                            dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                              bigsy @keyser
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                              @keyser Are you sure about that for the 2100? I know it's the case for the 4100/6100.

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                                mspeculatrix @keyser
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                                @keyser I read this: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/m-2-sata-installation.html

                                It says nothing about special keying - just that it has to be a 2242 and not NVMe.

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                                  bigsy @mspeculatrix
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                                  @mspeculatrix I have a factory fitted 32GB m.2 sata in a 2100. I haven't opened the case to see what it looks like. Smartctl reports it as ATP SATA III M.2 2242

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Yeah a standard 42mm m.2 SATA drive should fit in the 2100. And yes that should work fine if the eMMC is dead for whatever reason.

                                    Steve

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                                      keyser Rebel Alliance @mspeculatrix
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                                      @mspeculatrix said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                                      @keyser I read this: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/m-2-sata-installation.html

                                      It says nothing about special keying - just that it has to be a 2242 and not NVMe.

                                      Ahh, right, it was the NVMe drive in my 6100 that required a special key’ing. Sorry about that :-)
                                      Then it’s just a standard 2242 M.2 Sata SSD

                                      Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                                        keyser Rebel Alliance @bigsy
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                                        @bigsy said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                                        @keyser Are you sure about that for the 2100? I know it's the case for the 4100/6100.

                                        Yes, perfectly sure. If the PCI not working invalidated the M.2 slot, all of Netgates factory sold MAX models with 32Gb SSD would be impacted as well.

                                        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                                          bigsy @keyser
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                                          @keyser I was referring to your comment re the keying on the m.2 sata

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                                            netboy @bigsy
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                                            @bigsy From all these posts this is what I infer:

                                            Install a M.2 Sata Drive in SG-2100 and re-install the pfSense® Plus software on the new M.2 SATA drive.

                                            What I would like to do (not sure this is feasible):

                                            • Buy a M.2 Sata drive

                                            • Install the pfSense software on this drive (M.2 Sata is stand alone not installed in SG-2100)

                                            • Whenever the pfSense update goes south open the SG-2100 and install the M.2 with pre-installed PfSense

                                            Will the above work?

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