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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee @jimp
      last edited by

      @jimp In the case of Squid Proxy and content acceleration I have a 15 gb swap set up it's almost 70 percent full. Is this not the same thing, as it is considered a swap under the proxy ?

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jimp
        last edited by johnpoz

        Well manually edit of fstab to be da0 vs da1, finally got around to a reboot of pfsense and now see swap

        swap.jpg

        I don't really like rebooting my firewall.. Waited for a time when nobody streaming off plex, and wasn't doing anything else, etc.

        I will mark as solved, thanks Jim!

        edit: just to be complete, swapinfo now shows

        [23.01-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: swapinfo
        Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
        /dev/da0p2        1048576        0  1048576     0%
        [23.01-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
        

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @JonathanLee
          last edited by

          @jonathanlee said in swap not listed? [solved]:

          @jimp In the case of Squid Proxy and content acceleration I have a 15 gb swap set up it's almost 70 percent full. Is this not the same thing, as it is considered a swap under the proxy ?

          That is unrelated. That is about squid's internal memory vs disk cache. This is about OS RAM usage.

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            azdeltawye @johnpoz
            last edited by azdeltawye

            @johnpoz
            I'm having the same issue on my brand new 4100; swap partition exists but is not showing in the widget.

            I typed in the command: cat /etc/fstab but not sure where to go from here.

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            gpart show
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            I'm not sure why it says freebsd-ufs when the disk widget shows zfs...
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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan @azdeltawye
              last edited by Gertjan

              @azdeltawye said in swap not listed? [solved]:

              I'm having the same issue on my brand new 4100; swap partition exists but is not showing in the widget

              See Netgate 4100 disk : my 4100 MAX came with 22.01 pre installed and had a swap partition, but not shown in the GUI dashboard widget.
              Had to edit the /etc/fstab/ as mentioned above.

              This is mine right now :

              [23.01-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.brit-hotel-fumel.net]/root: cat /etc/fstab
              # Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#
              /dev/nvd0p3             none    swap    sw              0       0
              

              NOte ; back then, see other thread, I had a first line :

              /dev/msdosfs/EFISYS     /boot/efi       msdosfs rw,noatime,noauto       0       0
              

              Now, it is 't there anymore.

              @azdeltawye said in swap not listed? [solved]:

              freebsd-ufs when the disk widget shows zfs

              Can't tell ...
              I did do a complete re install with an fresh "22.05" image from Netgate, last September just to complete my 'crash test formation'.

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              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                The 4100 MAX I have here appears to be OK, it was freshly installed recently with 23.01, though. It's possible there was an issue in the older installer.

                I'm curious though if anyone can reproduce that with a fresh 23.01 install.

                : cat /etc/fstab
                # Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#
                /dev/gpt/efiboot0               /boot/efi       msdosfs rw              2       2
                /dev/nvd0p3             none    swap    sw              0       0
                
                : swapinfo
                Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
                /dev/nvd0p3       1048576        0  1048576     0%
                
                : gpart show -p
                =>       40  234441568    nvd0  GPT  (112G)
                         40     532480  nvd0p1  efi  (260M)
                     532520       1024  nvd0p2  freebsd-boot  (512K)
                     533544        984          - free -  (492K)
                     534528    2097152  nvd0p3  freebsd-swap  (1.0G)
                    2631680  231809024  nvd0p4  freebsd-zfs  (111G)
                  234440704        904          - free -  (452K)
                

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                  azdeltawye @Gertjan
                  last edited by

                  @gertjan
                  Thanks for the link to the applicable thread. I am in the exact same situation.
                  I will reply there with any updates.

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                    azdeltawye
                    last edited by

                    OK, problem solved.

                    I did a fresh install of 23.01 on my 4100-MAX and now the SWAP partition is recognized!

                    Before:

                    Shell Output - cat /etc/fstab
                    
                    # Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#
                    /dev/msdosfs/EFISYS     /boot/efi       msdosfs rw,noatime,noauto       0       0
                    /dev/gptid/1fa4f543-c6a2-11ec-93d9-90ec772a1255		none	swap	sw		0	0
                    
                    Shell Output - gpart show -p
                    
                    =>        3  234441637    nvd0  GPT  (112G)
                              3     409600  nvd0p1  efi  (200M)
                         409603  222504511  nvd0p2  freebsd-ufs  (106G)
                      222914114   11527521  nvd0p3  freebsd-swap  (5.5G)
                      234441635          5          - free -  (2.5K)
                    

                    After:

                    Shell Output - cat /etc/fstab
                    
                    # Device		Mountpoint	FStype	Options		Dump	Pass#
                    /dev/gpt/efiboot0	/boot/efi	msdosfs	rw		2	2
                    /dev/nvd0p3		none		swap	sw		0	0
                    
                    Shell Output - gpart show -p
                    
                    =>       40  234441568    nvd0  GPT  (112G)
                             40     532480  nvd0p1  efi  (260M)
                         532520       1024  nvd0p2  freebsd-boot  (512K)
                         533544        984          - free -  (492K)
                         534528   16777216  nvd0p3  freebsd-swap  (8.0G)
                       17311744  217128960  nvd0p4  freebsd-zfs  (104G)
                      234440704        904          - free -  (452K)
                    

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                    • JonathanLeeJ
                      JonathanLee @jimp
                      last edited by

                      @jimp does the 2100-Max have an ability to have a swap partition on the 30GB SSD drive? This is after a fresh install of 23.01 from TAC support provided software.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Not by default. And it would be complex to add it.

                        The aarch64 installs are created by imaging the target device directly, there is no installer like there is for amd64. The images used there do not have swap.

                        Steve

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Since you are running from an SSD you could partition the MMC and drop a swap slice on there if you really want swap but I wouldn't recommend doing that long term unless you're just wanting it for crash dumps.

                          We're considering making it an option to disable swap memory usage while keeping swap for crash dumps but we don't have an option in for that yet.

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                            JonathanLee @jimp
                            last edited by JonathanLee

                            @jimp Is there a way to enable swap on the 2100?

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                              The Party of Hell No @johnpoz
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz When I ran the gpart show -p:

                              => 40 234441568 ada0 GPT (112G)
                              40 409600 ada0p1 efi (200M)
                              409640 1024 ada0p2 freebsd-boot (512K)
                              410664 984 - free - (492K)
                              411648 2097152 ada0p3 freebsd-swap (1.0G)
                              2508800 231931904 ada0p4 freebsd-zfs (111G)
                              234440704 904 - free - (452K)my
                              Swap file is ada0s3,

                              I went to cat/etc/fstab:
                              /dev/ada2p3 none swap sw 0 0

                              So is the point at which I can edit fstab and change the ada2p3 to ada0p3? Then reboot pfsense?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Yes you could just edit he fstab if you have only one drive now and it has a SWAP partition.

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                                  The Party of Hell No @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 yes that is the case. I have migrated through several computers and I am thinking the incorrect location for the swap file is a remnant of past configurations - dual boot with windows and separate storage drives pre-zfs to store partition images using third party imaging program. When I clean installed 23 pfsense+? and moved to zfs, I pulled in my confiig file off a USB drive on reboot.

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                                    The Party of Hell No @The Party of Hell No
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                                    @The-Party-of-Hell-No

                                    Worked like a charm - now the swap partition shows up in the System Information widget.

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                                      The Party of Hell No @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10
                                      Thank you again sir.

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @JonathanLee
                                        last edited by

                                        @JonathanLee said in swap not listed? [solved]:

                                        @jimp Is there a way to enable swap on the 2100?

                                        Other than what's already been mentioned, if you use the new net installer to (re)install 24.03 on a 2100 you can specify the amount of swap space it will define (or disable by setting it to 0). The net installer does not use the old method of writing out disk images, it works similar to the full installation experience on amd64, even on aarch64/arm64.

                                        I would only recommend choosing to enable swap on a 2100 if you have an SSD in there, though.

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                                        • GertjanG
                                          Gertjan @The Party of Hell No
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                                          @The-Party-of-Hell-No said in swap not listed? [solved]:

                                          now the swap partition shows up in the System Information widget.

                                          Now swap is working, you have to observe that is never - yeap, never, gets used.
                                          Afaik, its useful to store crash dumps, so you an do some post mortem, after reboot, analyses.
                                          If pfSense start to actively use the swap, let this be a sign to you to take of load of the system immediately.

                                          This, the "Swp" line, should stay at "zero" always.

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                                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          • JonathanLeeJ
                                            JonathanLee
                                            last edited by

                                            Can I in theory utilize the mmc as the 2100 max has a ssd after the fact just format that mmc and configure it for use with 23.05? I only want it for this system panic with use of the compex pcie card, it crashes when it goes full tilt but I can’t get the info without the swap, I don’t want to reinstall I just a temp accessible swap for use with the current issue.

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