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    [Solved] Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config

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      furom @viragomann
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      @viragomann said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

      @furom
      Seems to be a copy of the example from the Proxmox doc.

      True, it is a copy of that. My config is exactly the same, apart from the vlan number and IP, everything else is identical.

      By not working; If I try to install a VM using Ubuntu ISO for example, and have assigned a vlan tag to the machines NIC, it will not get an IP during the DHCP provisioning step. I even add the same vlan tag, but nothing.

      Oh, so that only configures IP for the host... ? Then I misunderstood. An have no clue what I am missing for VMs to take part of provisioned vlans....

      I would like to be able to assign a VMs NIC a vlan tag, essentially untagging it for the VM

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        viragomann @furom
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        @furom
        The "bridge-vlan-aware yes" in the bridge settings gives you the VLAN option in the VM network settings. Check VLAN there and enter the ID.
        This way Proxmox does the tagging and untagging and the VM OS is not aware of the VLAN.
        It's like you can do on a VLAN capable switch.

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          furom @viragomann
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          @viragomann said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

          @furom
          The "bridge-vlan-aware yes" in the bridge settings gives you the VLAN option in the VM network settings. Check VLAN there and enter the ID.
          This way Proxmox does the tagging and untagging and the VM OS is not aware of the VLAN.
          It's like you can do on a VLAN capable switch.

          Oh... So essentially this?

          bridge-vlan-aware yes
          bridge-vids 2 5 10
          

          I thought the notation "2-4094" meant every vlan between 2 and 4094... I will try this at the earliest, thanks for sharing! :)

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            viragomann @furom
            last edited by viragomann

            @furom

            No, the VM part is to be done in the GUI.

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            I thought the notation "2-4094" meant every vlan between 2 and 4094.

            That's correct. With this option you can limit the VLANs to certain on the brigde. But for your purpose you can also keep the whole range here, I think.

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              furom @viragomann
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              @viragomann Then I'm confused. That is how I have done it... Server broke down on me so can't give screenshots, but the dialog you show is the one when configuring the VM, correct? In Hardware, on the NIC, I have "... tag=45" for instance. But it will not give the machine an IP on that network. That is why I thought the Proxmox config was off. But with what you say, Proxmox config is fine... Then the only thing left would be pfSense and/or the Netgate switch...

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                rcoleman-netgate Netgate @furom
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                @furom Is your PVE connected directly to the 2100 or through a second switch?

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                  furom @rcoleman-netgate
                  last edited by furom

                  @rcoleman-netgate said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

                  @furom Is your PVE connected directly to the 2100 or through a second switch?

                  Yes, PVE is directly connected to the 2100's built-in switch port #3, (pic above)

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                    furom
                    last edited by furom

                    This is the config of one VM which won't get an IP on defined vlan (in fact no IP at all to be exact);
                    54d52d6f-84a5-4026-83a4-1b207306feef-image.png
                    And the Proxmox config;

                    auto lo
                    iface lo inet loopback
                    
                    iface eno1 inet manual
                    
                    auto vmbr0.22
                    iface vmbr0.22 inet static
                            address 192.168.22.2/28
                            gateway 192.168.22.1
                    
                    auto vmbr0
                    iface vmbr0 inet static
                            bridge-ports eno1
                            bridge-stp off
                            bridge-fd 0
                            bridge-vlan-aware yes
                            bridge-vids 2-500
                    

                    Edit: I just now tried editing the last line, just specifying two vland id's, like "bridge-vids 30 44", but still refuse to work...

                    What am I missing? I read and read and test, still not working. And I'm repeatedly told I won't need any rules for DHCP...

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                      rcoleman-netgate Netgate @furom
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                      @furom Do an unfiltered packet capture on the VLAN on pfSense (https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/diagnostics/packetcapture/index.html) and filter against UDP 68 with a limit of 0 packets and see if the traffic is even getting there... or if it is getting there and responding...

                      I suspect the issue is in your PVE config

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                        furom @rcoleman-netgate
                        last edited by furom

                        @rcoleman-netgate said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

                        @furom Do an unfiltered packet capture on the VLAN on pfSense (https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/diagnostics/packetcapture/index.html) and filter against UDP 68 with a limit of 0 packets and see if the traffic is even getting there... or if it is getting there and responding...

                        I suspect the issue is in your PVE config

                        Just so I get this right, I am supposed to do this from a VLAN that is not working, or from pfSense? I'm not used capturing other than quite simple tcpdumps, but will figure it out I hope :)

                        Edit: I tried this from pfSense, and started a machine that should've requested an IP - nothing.

                        [root@pfSense ~]# tcpdump -ni mvneta1.30 udp port 68
                        
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                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @furom
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                          @furom the GUI in pfSense makes the PCAP easier... that's why I linked you to how to perform the packet capture in our documentation.

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                            furom @rcoleman-netgate
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                            @rcoleman-netgate Sorry. I used the GUI and I can see Proxmox trying something from its own GUI, I don't get anything in the PCAP....

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                              viragomann @furom
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                              @furom
                              You have enabled the Firewall on the VMs virtual NIC. Did you also configure it properly to allow access?

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                                furom @viragomann
                                last edited by furom

                                @viragomann said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

                                @furom
                                You have enabled the Firewall on the VMs virtual NIC. Did you also configure it properly to allow access?

                                That is on by default I think, but turning it off makes no difference unfortunately, was hoping it would... Still not seeing any captured packets though. Something is quite weird. Even tried "promiscous" mode, leaving Port blank... That should show something, right?

                                Edit: Only when I select WAN as interface I get some capture... :/ I don't get this. If I remove port and protocol I get some activity, but none on the one for Proxmox VM..

                                Removing Port & protocol on vlan 30 on which I am trying to setup an ubuntu, this was all it captured;

                                19:25:03.205680 IP 192.168.1.3 > 224.0.0.1: igmp
                                19:26:03.820911 IP 192.168.1.3 > 224.0.0.1: igmp
                                
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                                  furom @rcoleman-netgate
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                                  @rcoleman-netgate said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

                                  @furom
                                  I suspect the issue is in your PVE config

                                  Agreed. With my limited knowledge of package capture and your help I think we can conclude that pfSense seems to do what it is supposed, right? It certainly looks as if PVE is not relaying anything to or from it's VMs...

                                  I tried a laptop in a switch port for the same VLAN I set for the VM, and although it per definition is getting it untagged, the DHCP server responds as it should...

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                                    viragomann @furom
                                    last edited by viragomann

                                    @furom said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

                                    I tried a laptop in a switch port for the same VLAN I set for the VM, and although it per definition is getting it untagged,

                                    The switch port, which is connected to Proxmox is a trunk with tagged VLANs as I understood so far.
                                    If so and you connect a device to it, you have to configure its NIC for VLAN.

                                    Can you post your interface settings of pfSense, please?
                                    Status > Interfaces

                                    Which interface did you run the packet capture?

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                                      furom @viragomann
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                                      @viragomann said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

                                      @furom said in Problems with Proxmox/vlan-tagging/SG-2100 Switch config:

                                      I tried a laptop in a switch port for the same VLAN I set for the VM, and although it per definition is getting it untagged,

                                      The switch port, which is connected to Proxmox is a trunk with tagged VLANs as I understood so far.
                                      If so and you connect a device to it, you have to configure its NIC for VLAN.

                                      Can you post your interface settings of pfSense, please?
                                      Status > Interfaces

                                      Which interface did you run the packet capture?

                                      I got it working (!) while composing the answer to you! Thanks a lot!! It turned out to be a misconfiguration on the 2100-switch after all, I had not added the vlan to the port I am using... Having done that it now works as it is supposed to. This feels really great, and I am sorry for all the trouble, but very grateful for such a great forum and to all that has tried (and) helped!

                                      Thanks !

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