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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mvikman
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      @mvikman Hey could you post the output of your show tech so we can see what it says the pvid is..

      say ports 4 and 5 that have vlan 20 and 2000 on them.

      Where his was showing..

      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1

      When the lan was suppose to be 10.

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        Cannondale @johnpoz
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        Fresh run of show text attached.

        Cannondale show tech-support 20230522.txt

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          Cannondale @mvikman
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          @mvikman said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

          Just for fun, as a comparison, here's the config from my CBS250 switch

          Thanks mvikman!

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            mvikman @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz I'll just put some of the relevant ports from the tech output

            gi1: trunk port to pfSense
            gi2: trunk port to Wifi Ap
            gi3: access port to main pc
            gi4: access port homeserver
            gi5: empty port (in "port park" vlan)

            ------------------ show interfaces switchport ------------------
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi1
            Port Mode: 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             10                MGMT                 Tagged           S         
             20                LAN                  Tagged           S         
             25               MEDIA                 Tagged           S         
             30                WORK                 Tagged           S         
             35               CAMERA                Tagged           S         
             40                IOT                  Tagged           S         
             50               GUEST                 Tagged           S         
            
             
            Forbidden VLANS: 
            Vlan               Name               
            ---- -------------------------------- 
            
             
            Classification rules: 
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi2
            Port Mode: 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             10                MGMT                 Tagged           S         
             20                LAN                  Tagged           S         
             25               MEDIA                 Tagged           S         
             30                WORK                 Tagged           S         
             35               CAMERA                Tagged           S         
             40                IOT                  Tagged           S         
             50               GUEST                 Tagged           S         
            
             
            Forbidden VLANS: 
            Vlan               Name               
            ---- -------------------------------- 
            
             
            Classification rules: 
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi3
            Port Mode: 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             20                LAN                 Untagged          S         
            
             
            Forbidden VLANS: 
            Vlan               Name               
            ---- -------------------------------- 
            
             
            Classification rules: 
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi4
            Port Mode: 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             20                LAN                 Untagged          S         
            
             
            Forbidden VLANS: 
            Vlan               Name               
            ---- -------------------------------- 
            
             
            Classification rules: 
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi5
            Port Mode: 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
            2000             PortPark              Untagged          S         
            
             
            Forbidden VLANS: 
            Vlan               Name               
            ---- -------------------------------- 
            

            Here's "sh int switchport" from CLI on some of the above ports

            HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi1
            Name: gi1
            Switchport: enable
            Administrative Mode: trunk
            Operational Mode: up
            Access Mode VLAN: 1
            Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 4000 (Inactive)
            Trunking VLANs: 10,20,25,30,35,40,50
            General PVID: 1
            General VLANs: none
            General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
            General Forbidden VLANs: none
            General Ingress Filtering: enabled
            General Acceptable Frame Type: all
            General GVRP status: disabled
            Customer Mode VLAN: none
            
            Classification rules:
            
            
            HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi3
            Name: gi3
            Switchport: enable
            Administrative Mode: access
            Operational Mode: up
            Access Mode VLAN: 20
            Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
            Trunking VLANs: 1
            General PVID: 1
            General VLANs: none
            General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
            General Forbidden VLANs: none
            General Ingress Filtering: enabled
            General Acceptable Frame Type: all
            General GVRP status: disabled
            Customer Mode VLAN: none
            
            Classification rules:
            
            
            HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi5
            Name: gi5
            Switchport: enable
            Administrative Mode: access
            Operational Mode: down
            Access Mode VLAN: 2000
            Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
            Trunking VLANs: 1
            General PVID: 1
            General VLANs: none
            General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
            General Forbidden VLANs: none
            General Ingress Filtering: enabled
            General Acceptable Frame Type: all
            General GVRP status: disabled
            Customer Mode VLAN: none
            
            Classification rules:
            
            
            HOME-SW2#
            

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mvikman
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              @mvikman said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

              ngress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1

              Port is member in:

              Vlan Name Egress rule Added by


              2000 PortPark Untagged S

              Well yours is showing borked as well..

              How is that suppose to work if untagged traffic comes into that port onto vlan 1

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                pete35 @johnpoz
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                I would say this is pretty normal.

                look at this sg350X :

                trunk port with native vlan 2, works perfectly.

                MUPSW02SG350X#sh int switchport gi1/0/1
                S-VLAN Ethernet Type: 0x8100 (802.1q)
                VLAN Mapping Tunnel L2 protocols Global CoS: 5
                Name: gi1/0/1
                Switchport: enable
                Administrative Mode: trunk
                Operational Mode: up
                Access Mode VLAN: 1
                Access Multicast TV VLAN: none
                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 2
                Trunking VLANs: 1-2,10-11,14,21,111,113,120
                3-9,12-13,15-20,22-110,112,114-119,121-4094 (Inactive)
                General PVID: 1
                General VLANs: none
                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                General GVRP status: disabled

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                  @pete35 not talking about trunk port

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                    mvikman @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz

                    Well, everything works even if it looks borked...

                    Hmm... looking at the CBS-series CLI guide, "switchport mode" has these parameters
                    • access—Specifies an untagged layer 2 VLAN port.
                    • trunk—Specifies a trunking layer 2 VLAN port.
                    • general—Specifies a full 802-1q-supported VLAN port.
                    • customer—Specifies that an edge port connected to customer equipment. Traffic received from this port
                    will be tunneled with the additional 802.1q VLAN tag (Q-in-Q VLAN tunneling).

                    Also seems that those Ingress VLAN and PVID values are only used when the port is in General mode

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                      pete35 @mvikman
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                      hmmm lets asume that the switch is working properly.

                      if we set the workstation manually to the desired ip address/mask and gateway, there
                      should be a ping answer from the gateway on the pfsense.
                      just an idea to check this out.

                      next : change the workstation port to lets say port 23 and try to set the vlan there

                      and maybe : reboot pfsense and change the cables

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                        @pete35 all of that has already been done. Sniff on port going to pfsense no vlan tags - which has nothing to do with pfense

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                          pete35 @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz
                          we are using a lot of these switches and i never saw such problems. There are other problems with this switches but not within those basic vlan stuff. As these switches have a lifetime warranty from cisco, maybe a return and exchange will solve this issue. Otherwise im out of ideas what is wrong here.

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                            Cannondale @pete35
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                            I plugged in a Linux workstation into switch port 20, which was a normal lan port.
                            Got an IP from pfSense as expected.
                            Configured switch port 20 as a vlan using the cli. Note: port 20 was not previously configured as a vlan.

                            Output below of:
                            show vlan
                            sho run int
                            show interfaces switchport

                            Note: Switch port 1 is the pfSense Trunk port.

                            Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show vlan
                            Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                            
                            Vlan       Name           Tagged Ports      UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                            ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                             1           1                            gi2-19,gi21-23,           DV        
                                                                      gi25-50,Po1-4                       
                             10      testvl10             gi1                gi24               S         
                             20      testvl20             gi1                gi20               S         
                            
                            
                            Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi1
                            interface GigabitEthernet1
                             switchport mode trunk
                             switchport access vlan 10
                             switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                            !
                            
                            Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi20
                            interface GigabitEthernet20
                             switchport access vlan 20
                            !
                            
                            
                            Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge1
                            Name: gi1
                            Switchport: enable
                            Administrative Mode: trunk
                            Operational Mode: up
                            Access Mode VLAN: 10
                            Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (Inactive)
                            Trunking VLANs: 10,20
                            General PVID: 1
                            General VLANs: none
                            General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                            General Forbidden VLANs: none
                            General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                            General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                            General GVRP status: disabled
                            Customer Mode VLAN: none
                            
                            
                            Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge20
                            Name: gi20
                            Switchport: enable
                            Administrative Mode: access
                            Operational Mode: down
                            Access Mode VLAN: 20
                            Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                            Trunking VLANs: 1,10,20
                                                    2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                            General PVID: 1
                            General VLANs: none
                            General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                            General Forbidden VLANs: none
                            General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                            General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                            General GVRP status: disabled
                            Customer Mode VLAN: none
                            
                            
                            Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge24
                            Name: gi24
                            Switchport: enable
                            Administrative Mode: access
                            Operational Mode: up
                            Access Mode VLAN: 10
                            Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                            Trunking VLANs: 1,10,20
                                                    2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                            General PVID: 1
                            General VLANs: none
                            General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                            General Forbidden VLANs: none
                            General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                            General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                            General GVRP status: disabled
                            Customer Mode VLAN: none
                            
                            

                            I ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense server while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 20.
                            Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

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                              pete35 @Cannondale
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                              @cannondale

                              Try to configure another port to vlan 10 from/with the GUI. Save the config and reboot the switch and test afterwards. I just checked one of my switches and it works straightforward.

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                                Cannondale @pete35
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                                @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                Try to configure another port to vlan 10 from/with the GUI. Save the config and reboot the switch and test afterwards.

                                Thanks for the suggestion pete35!
                                Configured switch port 23 to be a member of vlan 10 via GUI.
                                copied running-config to startup-config

                                Show output below.

                                Roth-SG250-50P-1#show vlan
                                Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                
                                Vlan       Name           Tagged Ports      UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                                ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                                 1           1                            gi2-19,gi21-22,           DV        
                                                                          gi25-50,Po1-4                       
                                 10      testvl10             gi1              gi23-24              S         
                                 20      testvl20             gi1                gi20               S         
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi1
                                interface GigabitEthernet1
                                 switchport mode trunk
                                 switchport access vlan 10
                                 switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                                !
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi23
                                interface GigabitEthernet23
                                 switchport access vlan 10
                                

                                Ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense box while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 23. Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

                                Note: was not able to bounce the switch before the test as several users are using the system.
                                Can try that later today if it would help.

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  @cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                  was not able to bounce the switch before

                                  There is no reason you should have to bounce the switch, the only time you should ever have to reboot a switch is if you are updating its firmware.

                                  Well @mvikman shows his output as showing that vlan 1 as native for ingress and says its working.. Which isn't what the output would express if you ask me.

                                  But yours isn't

                                  My sg300 correctly shows that native ingress on whatever access vlan I put on a port.. See my example output where I change the port 28 to different vlan and then back, etc..

                                  Maybe the sg250 is just crap when it comes to what the cli shows - but then why isnt this working?

                                  For a last hope go to general mode and specifically set the native vlan and the vlan your on..

                                  But sorry if your not seeing tagged coming into pfsense where you have a vlan setup - its never going to work.. That is for sure..

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                                    Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                    johnpoz, thanks for continuing to hang in there!
                                    The Interface Settings page in the GUI only shows two options for a port. Access and Trunk.

                                    Screenshot from 2023-05-23 19-01-04.png

                                    But the Port VLAN Membership page in the GUI shows Access, Trunk, General and Customer.

                                    Screenshot from 2023-05-23 19-05-42.png

                                    My question is can I change the port access mode to General in the cli if the General option in not available in the GUI? If so would it appear as General on the Port VLAN Membership page?

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                                      Cannondale
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                                      Update:

                                      Tried configuring port 20 (VLAN20) via cli to general mode.

                                      Roth-SG250-50P-1(config)#do sho run int ge20
                                      interface GigabitEthernet20
                                       switchport mode general
                                       switchport general allowed vlan add 20 untagged
                                       switchport access vlan 20
                                       switchport general pvid 20
                                      !
                                      
                                      Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do sho run int ge1
                                      interface GigabitEthernet1
                                       switchport mode trunk
                                       switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                                      !
                                      

                                      Looked at the GUI Port VLAN Membership page, which looked ok to me.
                                      Couldn't upload the screenshot here do to error:parse-error.
                                      Here is the text version:

                                      F - Forbidden member	T - Tagged member	U - Untagged member	I - Inactive VLAN	P - PVID
                                      Interface	Mode	Administrative VLANs	Operational VLANs
                                      GE1	        Trunk	1UI, 10T, 20T	                10T, 20T	
                                      GE20	        General	20U, 20P	                20U
                                      

                                      Ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense box while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 20. Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

                                      OMG!

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                                        mvikman
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                                        Just a thought... the CBS-series GUI has a dropdown menu on the top right that switches between Basic and Advanced views, the Basic hides some stuff on the menus. Does the SG250 have that?

                                        1cbd6ac1-02d2-41ef-b11f-969f79c4a665-image.png

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                                        Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
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                                          pete35 @mvikman
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                                          @Cannondale I did a quick configuration on a local CBS350 Switch with a tagged port from a pfsense to that switch similar the configuration you have. Requesting a DHCP address from a workstation on an acces port and dumping the traffic with tcpdump on the pfsense. Tcpdump doesn't show up any VLAN Information with tcpdump -i ix0 -e - but opening the dumpfile with wireshark shows DHCP Request and DHCP Ack to that port and to an Access port on that switch which works without any issues. Maybe you should search for DHCP in your dumpfile and not for vlan ?

                                          Doing a PacketCapture on the pfsense also doesn't show up (with Wireshark) any VLAN information, but the DHCP Request and Ack Sequence.

                                          It is not common to see Vlan tags on packet capture or tcpdump files, you need to configure the adapter for that. It looks like pfsense is not configured to show vlan tags on the interfaces for capturing.

                                          Im assuming that your switch doing its job correctly.

                                          TESTSWITCH#sh vlan
                                          Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                          Vlan Name Tagged Ports UnTagged Ports Created by


                                          1 1 gi1/0/5, D
                                          101 TEST1 gi1/0/5 gi1/0/6 S

                                          TESTSWITCH#sh run interface gi 1/0/5
                                          interface GigabitEthernet1/0/5
                                          switchport mode trunk
                                          switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,101
                                          !
                                          TESTSWITCH#sh run interface gi 1/0/6
                                          interface GigabitEthernet1/0/6
                                          switchport access vlan 101

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                                            @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                            Tcpdump doesn't show up any VLAN Information with tcpdump -i ix0 -e

                                            And how is that - if your traffic is not tagged.. ?

                                            tagged.jpg

                                            It is not common to see Vlan tags on packet capture or tcpdump files

                                            It is when you use -e

                                            -e
                                                Print the link-level header on each dump line. This can be used, for example, to print MAC layer addresses for protocols such as Ethernet and IEEE 802.11.
                                            

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