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      mvikman @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz I'll just put some of the relevant ports from the tech output

      gi1: trunk port to pfSense
      gi2: trunk port to Wifi Ap
      gi3: access port to main pc
      gi4: access port homeserver
      gi5: empty port (in "port park" vlan)

      ------------------ show interfaces switchport ------------------
      Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
      Port : gi1
      Port Mode: 
      Gvrp Status: disabled
      Ingress Filtering: true
      Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
       
      Port is member in: 
       
      Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
      ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
       10                MGMT                 Tagged           S         
       20                LAN                  Tagged           S         
       25               MEDIA                 Tagged           S         
       30                WORK                 Tagged           S         
       35               CAMERA                Tagged           S         
       40                IOT                  Tagged           S         
       50               GUEST                 Tagged           S         
      
       
      Forbidden VLANS: 
      Vlan               Name               
      ---- -------------------------------- 
      
       
      Classification rules: 
      Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
      Port : gi2
      Port Mode: 
      Gvrp Status: disabled
      Ingress Filtering: true
      Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
       
      Port is member in: 
       
      Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
      ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
       10                MGMT                 Tagged           S         
       20                LAN                  Tagged           S         
       25               MEDIA                 Tagged           S         
       30                WORK                 Tagged           S         
       35               CAMERA                Tagged           S         
       40                IOT                  Tagged           S         
       50               GUEST                 Tagged           S         
      
       
      Forbidden VLANS: 
      Vlan               Name               
      ---- -------------------------------- 
      
       
      Classification rules: 
      Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
      Port : gi3
      Port Mode: 
      Gvrp Status: disabled
      Ingress Filtering: true
      Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
       
      Port is member in: 
       
      Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
      ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
       20                LAN                 Untagged          S         
      
       
      Forbidden VLANS: 
      Vlan               Name               
      ---- -------------------------------- 
      
       
      Classification rules: 
      Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
      Port : gi4
      Port Mode: 
      Gvrp Status: disabled
      Ingress Filtering: true
      Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
       
      Port is member in: 
       
      Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
      ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
       20                LAN                 Untagged          S         
      
       
      Forbidden VLANS: 
      Vlan               Name               
      ---- -------------------------------- 
      
       
      Classification rules: 
      Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
      Port : gi5
      Port Mode: 
      Gvrp Status: disabled
      Ingress Filtering: true
      Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
      Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
       
      Port is member in: 
       
      Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
      ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
      2000             PortPark              Untagged          S         
      
       
      Forbidden VLANS: 
      Vlan               Name               
      ---- -------------------------------- 
      

      Here's "sh int switchport" from CLI on some of the above ports

      HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi1
      Name: gi1
      Switchport: enable
      Administrative Mode: trunk
      Operational Mode: up
      Access Mode VLAN: 1
      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 4000 (Inactive)
      Trunking VLANs: 10,20,25,30,35,40,50
      General PVID: 1
      General VLANs: none
      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
      General Forbidden VLANs: none
      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
      General GVRP status: disabled
      Customer Mode VLAN: none
      
      Classification rules:
      
      
      HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi3
      Name: gi3
      Switchport: enable
      Administrative Mode: access
      Operational Mode: up
      Access Mode VLAN: 20
      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
      Trunking VLANs: 1
      General PVID: 1
      General VLANs: none
      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
      General Forbidden VLANs: none
      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
      General GVRP status: disabled
      Customer Mode VLAN: none
      
      Classification rules:
      
      
      HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi5
      Name: gi5
      Switchport: enable
      Administrative Mode: access
      Operational Mode: down
      Access Mode VLAN: 2000
      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
      Trunking VLANs: 1
      General PVID: 1
      General VLANs: none
      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
      General Forbidden VLANs: none
      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
      General GVRP status: disabled
      Customer Mode VLAN: none
      
      Classification rules:
      
      
      HOME-SW2#
      

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mvikman
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        @mvikman said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

        ngress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1

        Port is member in:

        Vlan Name Egress rule Added by


        2000 PortPark Untagged S

        Well yours is showing borked as well..

        How is that suppose to work if untagged traffic comes into that port onto vlan 1

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          pete35 @johnpoz
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          I would say this is pretty normal.

          look at this sg350X :

          trunk port with native vlan 2, works perfectly.

          MUPSW02SG350X#sh int switchport gi1/0/1
          S-VLAN Ethernet Type: 0x8100 (802.1q)
          VLAN Mapping Tunnel L2 protocols Global CoS: 5
          Name: gi1/0/1
          Switchport: enable
          Administrative Mode: trunk
          Operational Mode: up
          Access Mode VLAN: 1
          Access Multicast TV VLAN: none
          Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 2
          Trunking VLANs: 1-2,10-11,14,21,111,113,120
          3-9,12-13,15-20,22-110,112,114-119,121-4094 (Inactive)
          General PVID: 1
          General VLANs: none
          General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
          General Forbidden VLANs: none
          General Ingress Filtering: enabled
          General Acceptable Frame Type: all
          General GVRP status: disabled

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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            @pete35 not talking about trunk port

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              mvikman @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz

              Well, everything works even if it looks borked...

              Hmm... looking at the CBS-series CLI guide, "switchport mode" has these parameters
              • access—Specifies an untagged layer 2 VLAN port.
              • trunk—Specifies a trunking layer 2 VLAN port.
              • general—Specifies a full 802-1q-supported VLAN port.
              • customer—Specifies that an edge port connected to customer equipment. Traffic received from this port
              will be tunneled with the additional 802.1q VLAN tag (Q-in-Q VLAN tunneling).

              Also seems that those Ingress VLAN and PVID values are only used when the port is in General mode

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                pete35 @mvikman
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                hmmm lets asume that the switch is working properly.

                if we set the workstation manually to the desired ip address/mask and gateway, there
                should be a ping answer from the gateway on the pfsense.
                just an idea to check this out.

                next : change the workstation port to lets say port 23 and try to set the vlan there

                and maybe : reboot pfsense and change the cables

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                  @pete35 all of that has already been done. Sniff on port going to pfsense no vlan tags - which has nothing to do with pfense

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                    pete35 @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz
                    we are using a lot of these switches and i never saw such problems. There are other problems with this switches but not within those basic vlan stuff. As these switches have a lifetime warranty from cisco, maybe a return and exchange will solve this issue. Otherwise im out of ideas what is wrong here.

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                      Cannondale @pete35
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                      I plugged in a Linux workstation into switch port 20, which was a normal lan port.
                      Got an IP from pfSense as expected.
                      Configured switch port 20 as a vlan using the cli. Note: port 20 was not previously configured as a vlan.

                      Output below of:
                      show vlan
                      sho run int
                      show interfaces switchport

                      Note: Switch port 1 is the pfSense Trunk port.

                      Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show vlan
                      Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                      
                      Vlan       Name           Tagged Ports      UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                      ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                       1           1                            gi2-19,gi21-23,           DV        
                                                                gi25-50,Po1-4                       
                       10      testvl10             gi1                gi24               S         
                       20      testvl20             gi1                gi20               S         
                      
                      
                      Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi1
                      interface GigabitEthernet1
                       switchport mode trunk
                       switchport access vlan 10
                       switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                      !
                      
                      Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi20
                      interface GigabitEthernet20
                       switchport access vlan 20
                      !
                      
                      
                      Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge1
                      Name: gi1
                      Switchport: enable
                      Administrative Mode: trunk
                      Operational Mode: up
                      Access Mode VLAN: 10
                      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (Inactive)
                      Trunking VLANs: 10,20
                      General PVID: 1
                      General VLANs: none
                      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                      General Forbidden VLANs: none
                      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                      General GVRP status: disabled
                      Customer Mode VLAN: none
                      
                      
                      Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge20
                      Name: gi20
                      Switchport: enable
                      Administrative Mode: access
                      Operational Mode: down
                      Access Mode VLAN: 20
                      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                      Trunking VLANs: 1,10,20
                                              2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                      General PVID: 1
                      General VLANs: none
                      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                      General Forbidden VLANs: none
                      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                      General GVRP status: disabled
                      Customer Mode VLAN: none
                      
                      
                      Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge24
                      Name: gi24
                      Switchport: enable
                      Administrative Mode: access
                      Operational Mode: up
                      Access Mode VLAN: 10
                      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                      Trunking VLANs: 1,10,20
                                              2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                      General PVID: 1
                      General VLANs: none
                      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                      General Forbidden VLANs: none
                      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                      General GVRP status: disabled
                      Customer Mode VLAN: none
                      
                      

                      I ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense server while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 20.
                      Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

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                        pete35 @Cannondale
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                        @cannondale

                        Try to configure another port to vlan 10 from/with the GUI. Save the config and reboot the switch and test afterwards. I just checked one of my switches and it works straightforward.

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                          Cannondale @pete35
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                          @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                          Try to configure another port to vlan 10 from/with the GUI. Save the config and reboot the switch and test afterwards.

                          Thanks for the suggestion pete35!
                          Configured switch port 23 to be a member of vlan 10 via GUI.
                          copied running-config to startup-config

                          Show output below.

                          Roth-SG250-50P-1#show vlan
                          Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                          
                          Vlan       Name           Tagged Ports      UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                          ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                           1           1                            gi2-19,gi21-22,           DV        
                                                                    gi25-50,Po1-4                       
                           10      testvl10             gi1              gi23-24              S         
                           20      testvl20             gi1                gi20               S         
                          
                          Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi1
                          interface GigabitEthernet1
                           switchport mode trunk
                           switchport access vlan 10
                           switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                          !
                          Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi23
                          interface GigabitEthernet23
                           switchport access vlan 10
                          

                          Ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense box while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 23. Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

                          Note: was not able to bounce the switch before the test as several users are using the system.
                          Can try that later today if it would help.

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            @cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                            was not able to bounce the switch before

                            There is no reason you should have to bounce the switch, the only time you should ever have to reboot a switch is if you are updating its firmware.

                            Well @mvikman shows his output as showing that vlan 1 as native for ingress and says its working.. Which isn't what the output would express if you ask me.

                            But yours isn't

                            My sg300 correctly shows that native ingress on whatever access vlan I put on a port.. See my example output where I change the port 28 to different vlan and then back, etc..

                            Maybe the sg250 is just crap when it comes to what the cli shows - but then why isnt this working?

                            For a last hope go to general mode and specifically set the native vlan and the vlan your on..

                            But sorry if your not seeing tagged coming into pfsense where you have a vlan setup - its never going to work.. That is for sure..

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                              Cannondale @johnpoz
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                              johnpoz, thanks for continuing to hang in there!
                              The Interface Settings page in the GUI only shows two options for a port. Access and Trunk.

                              Screenshot from 2023-05-23 19-01-04.png

                              But the Port VLAN Membership page in the GUI shows Access, Trunk, General and Customer.

                              Screenshot from 2023-05-23 19-05-42.png

                              My question is can I change the port access mode to General in the cli if the General option in not available in the GUI? If so would it appear as General on the Port VLAN Membership page?

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                                Cannondale
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                                Update:

                                Tried configuring port 20 (VLAN20) via cli to general mode.

                                Roth-SG250-50P-1(config)#do sho run int ge20
                                interface GigabitEthernet20
                                 switchport mode general
                                 switchport general allowed vlan add 20 untagged
                                 switchport access vlan 20
                                 switchport general pvid 20
                                !
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do sho run int ge1
                                interface GigabitEthernet1
                                 switchport mode trunk
                                 switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                                !
                                

                                Looked at the GUI Port VLAN Membership page, which looked ok to me.
                                Couldn't upload the screenshot here do to error:parse-error.
                                Here is the text version:

                                F - Forbidden member	T - Tagged member	U - Untagged member	I - Inactive VLAN	P - PVID
                                Interface	Mode	Administrative VLANs	Operational VLANs
                                GE1	        Trunk	1UI, 10T, 20T	                10T, 20T	
                                GE20	        General	20U, 20P	                20U
                                

                                Ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense box while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 20. Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

                                OMG!

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                                  mvikman
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                                  Just a thought... the CBS-series GUI has a dropdown menu on the top right that switches between Basic and Advanced views, the Basic hides some stuff on the menus. Does the SG250 have that?

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                                    pete35 @mvikman
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                                    @Cannondale I did a quick configuration on a local CBS350 Switch with a tagged port from a pfsense to that switch similar the configuration you have. Requesting a DHCP address from a workstation on an acces port and dumping the traffic with tcpdump on the pfsense. Tcpdump doesn't show up any VLAN Information with tcpdump -i ix0 -e - but opening the dumpfile with wireshark shows DHCP Request and DHCP Ack to that port and to an Access port on that switch which works without any issues. Maybe you should search for DHCP in your dumpfile and not for vlan ?

                                    Doing a PacketCapture on the pfsense also doesn't show up (with Wireshark) any VLAN information, but the DHCP Request and Ack Sequence.

                                    It is not common to see Vlan tags on packet capture or tcpdump files, you need to configure the adapter for that. It looks like pfsense is not configured to show vlan tags on the interfaces for capturing.

                                    Im assuming that your switch doing its job correctly.

                                    TESTSWITCH#sh vlan
                                    Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                    Vlan Name Tagged Ports UnTagged Ports Created by


                                    1 1 gi1/0/5, D
                                    101 TEST1 gi1/0/5 gi1/0/6 S

                                    TESTSWITCH#sh run interface gi 1/0/5
                                    interface GigabitEthernet1/0/5
                                    switchport mode trunk
                                    switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,101
                                    !
                                    TESTSWITCH#sh run interface gi 1/0/6
                                    interface GigabitEthernet1/0/6
                                    switchport access vlan 101

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                                      @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                      Tcpdump doesn't show up any VLAN Information with tcpdump -i ix0 -e

                                      And how is that - if your traffic is not tagged.. ?

                                      tagged.jpg

                                      It is not common to see Vlan tags on packet capture or tcpdump files

                                      It is when you use -e

                                      -e
                                          Print the link-level header on each dump line. This can be used, for example, to print MAC layer addresses for protocols such as Ethernet and IEEE 802.11.
                                      

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                                        pete35 @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz

                                        Showing up VLAN tags may depend on the pfsense type/version/device driver and the nic. At least within my configuration it doesnt show up any VLAN Tags. Lets check cannondales dump file again.

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                                          @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                          type/version/device driver and the nic

                                          Possible.. But if it was working and sending the tags, why is his dhcp server not seeing the discover?

                                          For it to work, the tags have to be there - so why wouldn't basic function of tcpdump not show them?

                                          He is using igb interfaces - same as me. Maybe there is something with your ix interfaces, but have been using tcpdump for years.. I have never seen such an issue on all kinds of different hardware and OSes - and it for sure has worked on freebsd and pfsense going back as far as I can remember.

                                          edit: Just ordered a sg250-08HP off ebay.. Going to play with one of these myself.. This can not be this difficult ;) Says should be here

                                          Estimated delivery:
                                          Sat, May 27 - Tue, May 30

                                          Hoping for the 27th ;)

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                                            Cannondale @mvikman
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                                            @mvikman
                                            This is what my menu looks like:

                                            Screenshot from 2023-05-24 06-40-01.png

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