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    When will 2.7.0 go beta and/or have a single-step upgrade to 23.05?

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      bradsm87
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      With no way to fresh install pfsense plus on generic hardware and there being ZFS-related and no doubt other improvements with fresh installing 2.7 vs 2.6, it's frustrating the path that needs to be taken to get to 23.05. 2.7 dev fresh install, downgrade to 23.01 then upgrade to 23.05 seems like the cleanest way, but still messy.

      I get that Netgate want to push people to plus, but please give us a cleaner way to get to the latest plus when starting from scratch on generic hardware.

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        bradsm87
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        I'm presuming that 2.7.0 dev 2020-05-20-1800 is the closest snapshot to 23.05-release to avoid items having to be downgraded when switching to plus.

        The update system just needs to allow us to go from 2.7.0 straight to 23.05.

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          JimBob Indiana @bradsm87
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          @bradsm87

          It will. Just not now. When the DEV versions are released as stable version the upgrade path to + won’t need so much fooling around.

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            Soapy @JimBob Indiana
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            @JimBob-Indiana

            The Netgate Doc for 23.05 says this regarding CE upgrades:

            "Devices running pfSense CE software version 2.6.0 can also upgrade directly to pfSense Plus software version 23.05. Devices running pfSense CE software version 2.7.0 snapshots dated before the pfSense Plus software version 23.05 release can also upgrade directly. Snapshots after that time may still be able to upgrade, but check the forum for details."

            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/23-05.html

            So it seems the plan is (or was) to offer a direct upgrade path for the current DEV snapshots, rather than wait for 2.7 stable.

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              bradsm87 @Soapy
              last edited by

              @Soapy said in When will 2.7.0 go beta and/or have a single-step upgrade to 23.05?:

              @JimBob-Indiana

              The Netgate Doc for 23.05 says this regarding CE upgrades:

              "Devices running pfSense CE software version 2.6.0 can also upgrade directly to pfSense Plus software version 23.05. Devices running pfSense CE software version 2.7.0 snapshots dated before the pfSense Plus software version 23.05 release can also upgrade directly. Snapshots after that time may still be able to upgrade, but check the forum for details."

              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/23-05.html

              So it seems the plan is (or was) to offer a direct upgrade path for the current DEV snapshots, rather than wait for 2.7 stable.

              I just tried a fresh install of 2022-05-20 and it's still only showing 23.01. I'll try 2022-05-10 now. I wish this stuff was properly documented.

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                Dobby_ @bradsm87
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                @bradsm87

                But being fair here would also not sop hard as it sounds.
                We are able to set up and/or install both systems fresh!

                You will be able to install 2.6 (zfs) > 23.01 (zfs) > 23.05 (zfs)
                In half an hour all is done, no packages, no backup until
                23.05 is reached (installed) and over the console

                And on the other side 2.7 (zfs) fresh install is also present
                For peoples with newer hardware in usage such as Intel i226

                So getting the hands on something that will be only
                producing more or less some "quirks" in is also not that nice.

                #~. @Dobby

                Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                  bradsm87 @Dobby_
                  last edited by bradsm87

                  @Dobby_ said in When will 2.7.0 go beta and/or have a single-step upgrade to 23.05?:

                  @bradsm87

                  But being fair here would also not sop hard as it sounds.
                  We are able to set up and/or install both systems fresh!

                  You will be able to install 2.6 (zfs) > 23.01 (zfs) > 23.05 (zfs)
                  In half an hour all is done, no packages, no backup until
                  23.05 is reached (installed) and over the console

                  And on the other side 2.7 (zfs) fresh install is also present
                  For peoples with newer hardware in usage such as Intel i226

                  So getting the hands on something that will be only
                  producing more or less some "quirks" in is also not that nice.

                  There are noted improvements in the way that ZFS fresh installs take place on 2.7/23.01/23.05 that have a different end result compared to an upgrade from 2.6. Admittedly, I don't know the details but I remember discussion about it.

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                    Dobby_ @bradsm87
                    last edited by

                    @bradsm87 said in When will 2.7.0 go beta and/or have a single-step upgrade to 23.05?:

                    There are noted improvements in the way that ZFS fresh installs take place on 2.7/23.01/23.05 that have a different end result compared to an upgrade from 2.6. Admittedly, I don't know the details but I remember discussion about it.

                    Might be, but you will be able to install 23.05 or 2.7 dev
                    if needed urgent. Thats the main point. And if at this time
                    it will be a good option or not producing much more
                    problems I am pretty sure Netgate would be offering that
                    shorter way before or instand.

                    #~. @Dobby

                    Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                    PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                    PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                      bradsm87 @Dobby_
                      last edited by bradsm87

                      As far as I can tell, the mentioned ability to upgrade from earlier 2.7 snapshots to 23.05 is not correct. 2023-05-20 and 2023-05-10 both still showed 23.01 as the latest.

                      I ended up fresh installing 2.7 2023-02-15 then upgrading to 23.01 then 23.05. The 2023-02-15 > 23.01 was only a small fast update so it worked well.

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                        cybrnook
                        last edited by cybrnook

                        Just want to comment that after updating my 2.7.0 snapshot to the latest 2.7.0 snapshot 0605-0600 I believe it was, that the option to go straight from 2.7.0 to 23.05 was now available. It was no longer limited to just 23.01.
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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          It's now possible to upgrade from both 2.6 and 2.7-snapshots directly to 23.05

                          Steve

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                            JimBob Indiana @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10

                            Which 2.7? Whose done it to know it works?

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                              Soapy @JimBob Indiana
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                              @JimBob-Indiana I did it yesterday.

                              I don't remember which exact build of 2.7 Dev I was on, I think it was from May 30th. It was completely painless.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Any 2.7 version should work to 23.05. Including beta. 😉

                                It was only a problem before 23.05 was released because 23.01 had an earlier php version.

                                Steve

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                                  JimBob Indiana @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 Update to 23.05 worked great. Now I have to resist installed 23.09…. :)

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                                    Dobby_ @JimBob Indiana
                                    last edited by

                                    Since today I was able to upgrade two times the 2.7
                                    Devel version and now it is named 2.7 BETA and you
                                    may be able to choose to upgrade directly from it
                                    to 23.05.

                                    2.7 Beta to 23.05 1.jpg

                                    2.7 Beta to 23.05 2.jpg

                                    #~. @Dobby

                                    Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                                    PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                                    PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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