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Configure an PPPoE on an CARP IF

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    Gabri.91
    last edited by Gabri.91 Aug 15, 2019, 12:03 PM Aug 15, 2019, 11:54 AM

    Hi @TugBoat and @netblues,
    have you tried also the failover to backup CARP node with dynamic PPPOE?

    I've found some strange issues:

      1. main online, backup online => everything is working fine, just main has PPPOE active
      1. main goes offline => PPPOE is correctly connected on backup
      1. main back online => PPPOE it's trying to connect on main, but it's not disconnected on backup (so main it's unable to connect)
      1. after power off and power on again the backup, main connects but backup still tries to connect

    Now I have main connected and backup that still tries to connect, but I don't know how to revert back to initial situation...

    EDIT: Found the issue in case it could be useful for someone else, on backup node the PPOE was still pointing to the local interface and not to the CARP IP Address

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      A Former User
      last edited by Jun 30, 2020, 7:24 AM

      Hi, sorry to dig this up but it's the best (only?) documentation regarding CARP and PPPoE. I followed the hints of this thread and got a working setup. Everything including multiple VLANs, VLANs routed over vpn work just fine. But...

      Every once in a while (every few hours) I get timeouts accessing the internet from the LAN. It's about 5-10 seconds. I checked and the master doesn't switch, the pppoe interface doesn't reconnect. I'm at a loss what's causing it.

      I realized the only thing missing from this thread is outbound NAT. How do you have it configured - as the documentation states to go with manual and set a VIP as the translation address which doesn't seem to apply.

      Thanks !!

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        netblues
        last edited by Jun 30, 2020, 8:21 AM

        Outbound nat is set manually to the ppp interface assigned (since this is the one that gets the public ip.)
        This works and is quite stable for a long time now. I doubt its nat.
        Go to status monitoring and see if you have issues with your isp.

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          A Former User
          last edited by Jun 30, 2020, 8:35 AM

          That's how I setup outbound NAT thank you for confirming it's the correct way.

          @netblues said in Configure an PPPoE on an CARP IF:

          Go to status monitoring and see if you have issues with your isp.

          Yes, that's what I checked and nothing. Everything started the day I enabled ha/carp so it's quite a coincidence if it's something else.

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            JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
            last edited by Jun 30, 2020, 8:49 AM

            @icesense1701 said in Configure an PPPoE on an CARP IF:

            Yes, that's what I checked and nothing. Everything started the day I enabled ha/carp so it's quite a coincidence if it's something else.

            Also check for anything other gateway related or if you are using DNS resolver or forwarder, perhaps check the DNS logs, if it isn't the connection you are loosing but DNS being restarted/hanging up.

            Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

            If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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              netblues @JeGr
              last edited by Jun 30, 2020, 8:57 AM

              Also check in system/advanced/networking, uncheck reset all states, just in case.

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                A Former User
                last edited by Jul 3, 2020, 7:22 AM

                Just to follow up I seem to have fixed it with brute force. I rebooted the pfsense vms once more and all the switches. Also some vlan's didn't have the proper dhcp settings (failover ip) - shouldn't matter because the timeouts were on properly setup vlans but I fixed those too. I didn't experience any more issues for the past two days. Thanks all !

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                  crl @A Former User
                  last edited by Jan 23, 2022, 3:16 PM

                  It works for me but breaks openVPN, see Link.

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                    deb8
                    last edited by Apr 5, 2023, 6:03 AM

                    Hi all,
                    I followed the guide provided by @TugBoat and this is how my configuration looks like.

                    i. Interface in "Interfaces / Interface Assignments", named it LAN, set it with static IPv4 IP (192.168.1.4) and assigned it to Network port "em0". IPv4 Upstream gateway is set to none.

                    ii. Virtual IP in "Firewall / Virtual IPs" of type CARP, with interface LAN and single address 192.168.1.1.

                    iii. VLAN interface in "Interfaces / VLANs" with tag 10 on the physical interface em0. "VLAN 10 on em0", used for communication with the VDSL Modem.

                    iv. Interface in "Interfaces / Interface Assignments", named it WAN, set it with static IPv4 IP (192.168.0.4) and assigned it to Network port "VLAN 10 on em0". IPv4 Upstream gateway is set to none.

                    v. Virtual IP in "Firewall / Virtual IPs" of type CARP, with interface WAN and single address 192.168.0.2.

                    vi. PPPoE Interface in "Interfaces / PPPs" with link interface "192.168.0.2 (vhid 2) - WAN CARP VIP" with username and password.

                    vii. Interface in "Interfaces / Interface Assignments", named it WANPPPoE and assigned it to Network port "PPPOE(_vip610...)".

                    viii. Gateway in "System / Routing / Gateways" with interface "PPPoE", Address family "IPv4", Gateway "dynamic", checked "Use non-local gateway" (public IP assigned is in different subnet from the providers Gateway) and set as "Default gateway IPv4".

                    ix. Outbound NAT in "Firewall / NAT / Outbound", with interface "PPPoE", Address family "IPv4", Source Type "Network", Source Address Range "192.168.1.0/24" (LAN), Destination "Any", Translation Address "192.168.0.2 (WAN CARP VIP)".

                    x. DNS Resolver Network Interfaces set to "192.168.1.1 (LAN CARP VIP)", Outgoing Network Interfaces set to "192.168.0.2 (WAN CARP VIP)"

                    PPPoE is successfully established and public IP is assigned. However, the LAN portion of the configuration is unable to access the public internet.
                    Any hint on what I am doing wrong?
                    Thanks in advance.

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                      wifi75 @Gabri.91
                      last edited by Jun 7, 2023, 6:56 AM

                      @Gabri-91 I have a dynamic connection in pppoe on vlan 835, I have performed all the steps but it doesn't connect using the carp interface.
                      I double checked all the steps and it seems to be ok, but it doesn't want to connect to the wan...

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                        netblues @wifi75
                        last edited by Jun 17, 2023, 1:49 PM

                        @wifi75

                        This never really worked. pppoe running on a carp interface isn't an option.
                        And as far as natting is concerned, appart from the ppp interface everything else is irrelevant.
                        pppoe is a layer 2 thing.
                        Natting works on layer 3.

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                          JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @netblues
                          last edited by Jun 20, 2023, 7:49 AM

                          @netblues said in Configure an PPPoE on an CARP IF:

                          This never really worked. pppoe running on a carp interface isn't an option.

                          It sure is. We have a few customers set up that way and working well - within boundaries. Of course in such a setup the secondary node of a CARP setup won't easily have internet which is/can be a problem and as such the setup isn't really recommended. But it IS working though. It's important to check though that both nodes on it's WAN "carrier" interface are connected to each other and the DSL modem correctly so both have access to dial-in if needed. If that's set up correctly it's a relatively simple setup:

                          • either node gets the physical interface for the PPPoE connection assigned with its own IP, say 10.12.34.251 and .252
                          • check pinging from one to the other and back (allow ICMP on that interface first)
                          • then add a CARP VIP to it, e.g. .254 - that one should now be active on the primary node anad backup on the secondary node. If that is not the case you don't need to proceed with PPPoE stuff. That's basic CARP that should be working first!
                          • If that's running you can now add the PPPoE interface but as carrier you don't choose your physical interface BUT the NEW CARP VIP you created (yes, that .254 one from above!) This ensures the PPPoE connection switches from node 1 to 2 and back if needed.
                          • Then set up PPPoE as usual.
                          • When finished assign that interface (pppoe0) as your WAN_PPPoE or something else like it. THAT one is your actual WAN, the other physical interface and the VIP on it are only a sort-of transfer/carrier network.

                          Cheers

                          Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

                          If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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