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      droidus @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Local DNS resolution & blocking of a domain & pfblockerng:

      So as you can see, simple nslookup on my pc asks my pihole (192.168.3.10) and I still resolve that host override I created.

      So I guess that's where the complexity lies. I imagine the flow like this. Client request -> pfsense box -> local checks (like host overrides) (pfblockerng only operates off of the WAN interface, correct?) -> If still not resolved, THEN forward to the public DNS servers defined.

      So maybe do I need to have my DHCP server tell clients the DNS server is ONLY pfsense, and then pfsense handles it, and only it knows of the public dns servers?

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        SteveITS Galactic Empire @droidus
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        @droidus your last sentence is correct.

        pfBlocker has firewall rules via feeds, or DNSBL via the pfSense DNS server.

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          droidus @SteveITS
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          @SteveITS So in theory, shouldn't this work then?
          nslookup ansible.home.lab <pfsense-ip>
          Instead, it hangs, then fails.

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @droidus
            last edited by johnpoz

            @droidus

            yes that should work, if you allow access to unbound via firewall rule, its actually running - and you setup the host override in it - have seen users set up the override in dnsmasq (forwarder) when they are using unbound (resolver) or vise versa.

            $ nslookup ansible.home.lab 192.168.9.253
            Server:  sg4860.local.lan
            Address:  192.168.9.253
            
            Name:    ansible.home.lab
            Address:  192.168.1.138
            

            What error do you get - something like this?

            $ nslookup ansible.home.lab 192.168.9.254                 
            DNS request timed out.                                    
                timeout was 2 seconds.                                
            Server:  UnKnown                                          
            Address:  192.168.9.254                                   
                                                                      
            DNS request timed out.                                    
                timeout was 2 seconds.                                
            DNS request timed out.                                    
                timeout was 2 seconds.                                
            DNS request timed out.                                    
                timeout was 2 seconds.                                
            DNS request timed out.                                    
                timeout was 2 seconds.                                
            *** Request to UnKnown timed-out                          
            

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              droidus @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz All I get is this:
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              1.2 is the IP of the pfsense box.
              Here's the LAN fw rules I have enabled:
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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @droidus
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                @droidus it never comes back with any sort of error or timeout?

                just type nslookup, what does it come back with?

                example: here I just type nslookup, then change the server and ask for the host override

                $ nslookup
                Default Server:  pi.hole
                Address:  192.168.3.10
                
                > server 192.168.9.253
                Default Server:  sg4860.local.lan
                Address:  192.168.9.253
                
                > ansible.home.lab
                Server:  sg4860.local.lan
                Address:  192.168.9.253
                
                Name:    ansible.home.lab
                Address:  192.168.1.138
                
                >
                

                When you change the server to the IP of pfsense, it should come back with pfsense name - if not then that is indication there is something wrong. See how mine comes back with sg4860.local.lan when I change to my pfsense IP.

                If unbound doesn't answer, then your client should give a timeout.. If it talked to unbound then you should get some sort of answer, nx, serv fail, something..

                For example if I ask for something that just isn't going to resolve..

                > lsjfsldf.soldjfsdsldf.com
                Server:  sg4860.local.lan
                Address:  192.168.9.253
                
                *** sg4860.local.lan can't find lsjfsldf.soldjfsdsldf.com: Non-existent domain
                

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                  droidus @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz I'm not sure if this is good practice or not (at least for home use) or even possible, but is it possible to just use "ansible" instead of including the sld&tld? Ie "ansible.home.lab"? For example, I would be able to "ping ansible".

                  BTW, I got the resolution working now!

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @droidus
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @droidus if you want to just type in ansible then you could setup your OS to use a search suffix so it would auto add home.lab, and or other suffixes you would use.

                    So for example if I just ping ansible notice it doesn't work.

                    $ ping ansible
                    Ping request could not find host ansible. Please check the name and try again.
                    

                    But if I add home.lab to my suffix search.

                    suffix.jpg

                    $ ping ansible
                    
                    Pinging ansible.home.lab [192.168.1.138] with 32 bytes of data:
                    

                    What was wrong - what did you change, why wasn't it working before?

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                      droidus @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz Got it. Was just wondering if there was any way to modify the request so that I don't have to go to every server/machine and do mods like that. Will have to look into how to do that for linux.... I believe it's the resolv.conf file.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @droidus
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                        @droidus just use fqdn when you looking for something.. Much better than having suffix search, which will quite often add that to every single query be you need them or not..

                        So for example if you were looking for www.google.com, you end up with an query as well for www.google.com.home.lab

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                          NollipfSense
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                          Op should modify firewall rule to be more specific and exact...source - LAN.net Destination - THIS FIREWALL

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                            droidus @NollipfSense
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                            @NollipfSense Got it, thank you. I've updated those two rules. Should I apply the same logic to any other rules, such as the ones surrounding them?:
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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @droidus
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              @droidus said in Local DNS resolution & blocking of a domain & pfblockerng:

                              such as the ones surrounding them?:

                              You should always be as specific as possible with rules.. This firewall is not specific to be honest. If this is your lan net, that would be the IP it would be talking to for dns, ie lan address. Why would something on your lan be talking to say opt X on pfsense IP for dns? or you wan IP? "This firewall" is an alias that has all the IPs on pfsense.

                              Do you use this lan net as a transit network? How would something be talking to your lan interface from the lan net coming from any IP other than lan net? There is no reason to have any as the source, unless the interface is a transit network, and even then it should be limited to the IPs as source, why would you not know your downstream networks using this interface as a transit..

                              Also what client would be using dot? (853) Clients use doh, dot is more for resolvers or forwarders to use.. Also for you to use dot from a client do you have that setup with cert that your clients would trust?

                              What do you have behind pfsense that is using dot? And for that matter why would you need to encrypt dns queries across your own network?

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