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    • fireodoF
      fireodo
      last edited by fireodo

      .1 😎

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @fireodo
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        @fireodo Im using .253

        default stuff uses .1 and .254

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        • NogBadTheBadN
          NogBadTheBad @johnpoz
          last edited by NogBadTheBad

          .254 for the default gateway / HSRP / VRRP that floats
          .253 1st router / switch interface
          .252 2nd router / switch interface

          .1 switch-1
          .2 switch-2
          etc ...

          .1 exists for people who can't work out IP address ranges ;)

          I have seen idiots when they need to increase the IP range change from a /24 to a /23 and leave the default gateway in the middle of the range.

          Andy

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            pst @bingo600
            last edited by

            @bingo600 forced to change to .254 while trying to install CCTV cameras that didn't use DHCP but a static IP of .1 :/ Left as .254 ever since ...

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @NogBadTheBad
              last edited by

              a /23 and .0

              @NogBadTheBad Heyyyy… 😒

              ;)

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @SteveITS
                last edited by johnpoz

                @SteveITS that will confuse the hackers that get into your network - they won't have a clue to what the gateway is - hehehe ;)

                But sure why not - that sure and the hell wouldn't be a default of some device you plug into the network ;)

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                • GertjanG
                  Gertjan @pst
                  last edited by

                  @pst said in Are you a .1 or .254 guy ?:

                  install CCTV cameras that didn't use DHCP but a static IP of .1 :/

                  Multiple devices that are all all use .1 ?
                  Easy : I wouldn't even consider buying these, as it is pretty broken right out of the box. How would you even be able to use the second one ?

                  Anyway, just today, see this : Lan's ip is 254, and the web page cannot be accessed
                  and there is nearly every day someone posting with an identical 'problem'.

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  • keyserK
                    keyser Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
                    last edited by

                    @SteveITS Living on the edge eh? πŸ˜‚ That’s so cool I might even consider changing my /24s to /23s just to do that🀣

                    Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @keyser
                      last edited by

                      @keyser Also works for .255 ;)

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                        pst @Gertjan
                        last edited by

                        @Gertjan said in Are you a .1 or .254 guy ?:

                        How would you even be able to use the second one ?

                        install the first, then connect to it and change it to use DHCP to obtain an IP address, then repeat procedure for all of them :)

                        without naming names, this is a popular brand of CCTVs. Chinese obviously...

                        I've had similar issues when installing an additional wireless access point which could also act as a router, by default using static .1

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                          pst @Gertjan
                          last edited by

                          @Gertjan said in Are you a .1 or .254 guy ?:

                          Multiple devices that are all all use .1 ?

                          In the early models, yes. Recent models are improved though as they use static .64 πŸ™„

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                            ronv42
                            last edited by

                            I am a end of the subnet range guy. I do firewall swaps for updates so my gateway's for IPv4 can be 250 to 254. It's a good way to keep the trolls on the network guessing.

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan @pst
                              last edited by

                              @pst said in Are you a .1 or .254 guy ?:

                              install the first, then connect to it and change it to use DHCP to obtain an IP address, then repeat procedure for all of them :)

                              Ah, ok, I get it.
                              Their IPv4 isn't hard locked to 192.168.1.1, you can activate DHCPv4.
                              Still stupid.
                              Buy any PC with 'an OS'. Or a pad, phone, anything.
                              "DHCP" is activated by default, no "static IPv4".
                              Why would this be different for a camera ?

                              On the other hand, when you actually make a camera part of your network, set up access right etc, you are normally the one that knows about "IP" addresses.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @Gertjan normally you would think a device would default to dhcp, and if dhcp fails - then sure fall back to a default static..

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                                  britri @NogBadTheBad
                                  last edited by

                                  @NogBadTheBad

                                  Exactly how I do it πŸ‘

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                                  • Dobby_D
                                    Dobby_
                                    last edited by

                                    .1 as Gateway

                                    #~. @Dobby

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                                      Vollans @viragomann
                                      last edited by

                                      @viragomann said in Are you a .1 or .254 guy ?:

                                      But have also seen something strange here already like .119.

                                      One of the ISPs here in Australia sends out their kit with a default of .38! Every time I hit one of their modems on a job it drives me nuts.

                                      For me, always been a .1 person because the very first ISDN 2e service back in the late 90s was, and it's hardwired into my brain now. Though I'm also a 3aef person now ;)

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                                      • PhizixP
                                        Phizix
                                        last edited by

                                        I started out with NetGear so I am old school when most were .1, so that is what I have stuck with.

                                        For me it is:

                                        • .1 = gateway
                                        • .1n = AP pints
                                        • .2n = switches
                                        • .20n = NAS boxes
                                        • .150 - .199 = DHCP dynamically assigned leases

                                        And other groups for various kinds of hardware like printers, tablets, & phones so I can make IP aliases based on IP groups for assignment to Gateway groups and for other rules.

                                        Such fun.

                                        Phizix

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                                        • GertjanG
                                          Gertjan @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz said in Are you a .1 or .254 guy ?:

                                          and if dhcp fails - then sure fall back to a default static

                                          That's what I've seen with the 'Windows' OS : a 169., the APIPA type.

                                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                            mikeisfly
                                            last edited by

                                            When I use to work at a very large ISP, customers would set their router to first usable IP and we would set our CPE to last usable IP. I tend to follow this method. No need to complicate things.

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