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    • bingo600B
      bingo600 @stephenw10
      last edited by bingo600

      @stephenw10

      So "In plain english" , 23.05 has the 23.01 issue fixed.
      And i should delete my "tunables", and give it a try ??
      Correct ?

      Should i enable PowerD , that i use to have enabled to activate the 23.05 speed/power adapt ?

      Btw: The PR you listed above, has 23.09 as target

      /Bingo

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        No, 23.05 behaves the same as 23.01 with regard to SpeedShift.

        Enabling SpeedStep (powerd) does nothing unless you disable SpeedShift. You can do that by setting hint.hwpstate_intel.0.disabled="1".

        Since SpeedShift is better that SpeedStep in every way except the default values (IMO). I recommend just setting the values as you have in both 23.01 and 23.05.

        Steve

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        • bingo600B
          bingo600 @stephenw10
          last edited by bingo600

          He..he

          I just deleted my SpeedShift entries , as i thought the fix were in 23.05.
          I'm reentering and setting to 75, as when it ran on 23.01
          And keep PowerD disabled.

          Thnx

          /Bingo

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            For reference I'm running those values at 80 on a test box I have here that supports SpeedShift.

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            • bingo600B
              bingo600 @stephenw10
              last edited by bingo600

              I seem to remember that 80 was the "recommended value" in our last round of SpeedStep settings.

              But i like the way my Hystou/Protecli behaves on 75.

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                LDS
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                I have an Atom C3558, I'm now using pfSense 2.7 but the FreeBSD version is obviously the same. The CPU was running most of the time at 800MHz, now is mostly stuck at the top speed of 2.2GHz and of course runs hotter. I don't know if it's an Heisenberg situation - just having the Dashboard open to check the CPU speed runs the CPU faster.

                I have tried to set dev.hwpstate_intel.X.epp to 80 (X from 0 to 3) but it does not help. I'm not sure if the C3558 has SpeedShift, Intel ARK doesn't say it, nor I can find it in the boot log.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  C3K doesn't have Speed Shift. Without the dashboard open try running:

                  [23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@6100-3.stevew.lan]/root: sysctl dev.cpu.0
                  dev.cpu.0.temperature: 55.0C
                  dev.cpu.0.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                  dev.cpu.0.coretemp.tjmax: 91.0C
                  dev.cpu.0.coretemp.resolution: 1
                  dev.cpu.0.coretemp.delta: 37
                  dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc
                  dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 6940958 0
                  dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 20556us
                  dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
                  dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/50
                  dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/0 2100/0 2000/0 1900/0 1800/0 1700/0 1600/0 1500/0 1400/0 1300/0 1200/0 1100/0 1000/0 900/0 800/0
                  dev.cpu.0.freq: 800
                  dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
                  dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none
                  dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0
                  dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
                  dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
                  

                  Check the available freq levels and current freq shown.

                  Steve

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                  • demD
                    dem @LDS
                    last edited by dem

                    @LDS said in Issues with CPU frequency after upgrade 23.01:

                    I don't know if it's an Heisenberg situation - just having the Dashboard open to check the CPU speed runs the CPU faster.

                    I see this on my Protectli with a (non-Speed Shift?) J3160 with my busy Dashboard and powerd set to Hiadaptive. I never see the current CPU speed displayed at all on the Dashboard (since it's not displayed when at maximum), but if I leave the Dashboard and run sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq at the command line I can see the frequency change.

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                      LDS @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10

                      Tried via SSH - looks locked at 2200MHz:

                      dev.cpu.0.temperature: 40.0C
                      dev.cpu.0.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                      dev.cpu.0.coretemp.tjmax: 91.0C
                      dev.cpu.0.coretemp.resolution: 1
                      dev.cpu.0.coretemp.delta: 51
                      dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc
                      dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 2960105 0
                      dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 4326us
                      dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
                      dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/50
                      dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/0 2100/0 2000/0 1900/0 1800/0 1700/0 1600/0 1500/0 1400/0 1300/0 1200/0 1100/0 1000/0 900/0 800/0
                      dev.cpu.0.freq: 2200
                      dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
                      dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none
                      dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0
                      dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
                      dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
                      

                      I'll try to disable SpeedShift and reactivate PowerD and see what happens.

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                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @LDS
                        last edited by

                        @LDS said in Issues with CPU frequency after upgrade 23.01:

                        reactivate PowerD

                        PowerD works fine on the 6100 which is that CPU.

                        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yeah you need powerd active to get lower CPU frequencies.

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                            LDS @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10

                            Setting hint.hwpstate_intel.0.disabled to 1 with PowerD returned to the old behaviour:

                            dev.cpu.0.temperature: 39.0C
                            dev.cpu.0.coretemp.throttle_log: 0
                            dev.cpu.0.coretemp.tjmax: 91.0C
                            dev.cpu.0.coretemp.resolution: 1
                            dev.cpu.0.coretemp.delta: 52
                            dev.cpu.0.cx_method: C1/mwait/hwc C2/mwait/hwc
                            dev.cpu.0.cx_usage_counters: 16653 0
                            dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 17244us
                            dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
                            dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/1 C2/2/50
                            dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/0 2100/0 2000/0 1900/0 1800/0 1700/0 1600/0 1500/0 1400/0 1300/0 1200/0 1100/0 1000/0 900/0 800/0
                            dev.cpu.0.freq: 800
                            dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
                            dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 _CID=none
                            dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0
                            dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
                            dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
                            
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                              coxhaus @bingo600
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                              @bingo600

                              So, I added 4 cpu entries for my Intel i3-6100T as described here and seems to work well. My cpu drops down to 897MHz and temps are down to 30 degrees C. PowerD had no effect so I turned it off. I could not tell a difference between 75 and 80 in my low so I left it at 80. My low was never lower than 897MHz.

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