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    SG-2440 out of disk space

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      Coldfirex 0
      last edited by

      Howdy,
      I noticed that my 2240 is out of disk space. It was running 23.01. I factory reset it, then upgraded to 23.5.01.
      I have not installed any packages. It is an older unit though that has been upgraded multiple times through the years.
      Any help would be appreciated.

      [23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: gpart show
      =>     63  7733185  da0  MBR  (3.7G)
             63  7727202    1  freebsd  [active]  (3.7G)
        7727265     5983       - free -  (2.9M)
      
      =>      0  7727202  da0s1  BSD  (3.7G)
              0       16         - free -  (8.0K)
             16  5795386      1  freebsd-ufs  (2.8G)
        5795402  1931800      2  freebsd-swap  (943M)
      
      
      23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: df -h
      Filesystem                     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
      /dev/ufsid/56a13ddd050381c7    2.7G    2.5G    -49M   102%    /
      devfs                          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
      tmpfs                          4.0M    128K    3.9M     3%    /var/run
      devfs                          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /var/dhcpd/dev
      
      
      [23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: df -hi
      Filesystem                     Size    Used   Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused  Mounted on
      /dev/ufsid/56a13ddd050381c7    2.7G    2.5G    -49M   102%     41k  360k   10%   /
      devfs                          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%       0     0     -   /dev
      tmpfs                          4.0M    128K    3.9M     3%      43   14k    0%   /var/run
      devfs                          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%       0     0     -   /var/dhcpd/dev
      
      [23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: du -Pshx /*
      8.0K    /COPYRIGHT
      1.3M    /bin
      661M    /boot
      4.0K    /boot.config
        0B    /boot.config.bak
      844K    /cf
        0B    /conf
       12K    /conf.default
      4.0K    /dev
       11M    /etc
       24K    /home
       17M    /lib
      160K    /libexec
      4.0K    /media
      4.0K    /mnt
      4.0K    /net
       15M    /pkgs
      4.0K    /proc
       26M    /rescue
      102M    /root
      4.6M    /sbin
      4.0K    /scripts
        0B    /sys
      4.0K    /tank
      136K    /tmp
      1.4G    /usr
      310M    /var
      
      [23.05.1-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: du -hd1 /
      4.0K    /.snap
      661M    /boot
      1.3M    /bin
       12K    /conf.default
      4.0K    /dev
       11M    /etc
       24K    /home
      160K    /libexec
       17M    /lib
      102M    /root
      4.6M    /sbin
      1.4G    /usr
      311M    /var
      140K    /tmp
      4.0K    /mnt
      844K    /cf
      4.0K    /net
      4.0K    /media
      4.0K    /proc
       26M    /rescue
      4.0K    /scripts
      4.0K    /tank
       15M    /pkgs
      2.5G    /
      
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        SteveITS Galactic Empire @Coldfirex 0
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        @Coldfirex-0 reverting to a default config file won’t help with file space. Did you reinstall?

        Easiest thing would be to delete some log files.

        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-usage.html
        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/index.html#hardware

        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
        Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @SteveITS
          last edited by rcoleman-netgate

          @SteveITS @Coldfirex-0

          the base 4GB eMMC on those original 2440s is a really tiny chip. You can't run ZFS on it, for example.

          I'd get an SSD for it before the eMMC dies completely. https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-2440/msata-installation.html

          Ryan
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            Coldfirex 0 @rcoleman-netgate
            last edited by

            @rcoleman-netgate Would I still be able to get an image file from support even if my support is expired? From what I know about this model I cant use the download from the website?

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              Coldfirex 0 @SteveITS
              last edited by

              @SteveITS OK, I didnt realize that. I was kinda curious about the output because it sorta looked like ut was only using 2.7 out of 4gb card but I dont know much about this.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Yes you can always get the reinstall image for Netgate hardware, you don't need current support for that. Just open a ticket:
                https://www.netgate.com/tac-support-request

                Steve

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                  Coldfirex 0 @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 Good to know, thanks!

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                    ASGR71
                    last edited by

                    Hey Coldfirex!

                    Speaking as a noob...

                    I'd go with a clean reinstall (request image from TAC guys)
                    and possibly with a UFS drive format. In my opinion, ZFS is
                    overkill for the small / older units.

                    The installer will ask you which drive format you would prefer.
                    UFS, is less processor and drive intensive but you are more
                    prone to drive errors in case of power outages apparently.

                    Also, you could consider a separate log file server, like GeyLog.
                    It'll take the pressure off the unit and you'll have greater visibility!

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                      rcoleman-netgate Netgate @ASGR71
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                      @ASGR71 said in SG-2440 out of disk space:

                      I'd go with a clean reinstall (request image from TAC guys)
                      and possibly with a UFS drive format. In my opinion, ZFS is
                      overkill for the small / older units.

                      on a 4G eMMC (which it appears they have) you cannot use ZFS.

                      Also permanently ending UFS boot loops are worth going with ZFS.

                      Ryan
                      Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
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                      Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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                        mer
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                        I can confirm that adding extra storage device and getting a current install image from TAC on a 2440 is the way to go. I went through that process earlier this year, painless, got ZFS in the end and after quick testing mine is sitting in the closet as a cold spare.

                        My opinion only:
                        Netgate support ranks up in my top five as to "what customer support should be". Upfront cost of the devices seems high, but amortize that over the years of use and it's almost cheap.

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                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @mer
                          last edited by

                          @mer said in SG-2440 out of disk space:

                          Netgate support ranks up in my top five as to "what customer support should be".

                          Aww.

                          Ryan
                          Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
                          Requesting firmware for your Netgate device? https://go.netgate.com
                          Switching: Mikrotik, Netgear, Extreme
                          Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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                            mer @rcoleman-netgate
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                            @rcoleman-netgate I actually fill out the surveys when they get emailed to me. And I know me saying that doesn't get me any swag, so it's an honest opinion. I guess the caveat is I really haven't needed to use them beyond RMA for a 2440 that red lighted, getting images and the interactions I've seen on the forums.
                            If all that got me free shipping on my next device I'd be happy :)

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                              rcoleman-netgate Netgate @mer
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                              @mer said in SG-2440 out of disk space:

                              I guess the caveat is I really haven't needed to use them beyond RMA for a 2440 that red lighted, getting images and the interactions I've seen on the forums.

                              That's probably good because that ended in 2021.

                              Ryan
                              Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
                              Requesting firmware for your Netgate device? https://go.netgate.com
                              Switching: Mikrotik, Netgear, Extreme
                              Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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                                mer @rcoleman-netgate
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                                @rcoleman-netgate Yep. I got the red light RMA in just under the wire, updated install image within the last 6 months. So I'm going on the quality of the hardware (2440, 2100, 5100, 4100) and the overall support when needed.

                                I'm not trying to sound like a "fanboi" or whatever the young kids say nowdays, but give yourself a pat on the back.

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