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    Setting low TTL to fix Squid issue

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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee @michmoor
      last edited by JonathanLee

      @michmoor did you manually block https for the DNS servers you use on the firewall?

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      Please let me know how you got around this firewall puzzle if you found another way with Squid / Squidguard use. I changed mine to stare all over stare step 2 bump step 3 it seemed to help. As I learned its essentially the same thing from our last research on Squid.

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        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @JonathanLee
        last edited by michmoor

        @JonathanLee I block as much DoH as i can based on the pfblocker filter ive applied.
        My upstream DNS is CloudFlare. I am not using my ISP dns servers.
        I am already blocking external DNS and DoT.

        I created a floating rule
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        I created an alias deny
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        Custom Unbound settings
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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
          last edited by michmoor

          @michmoor said in Setting low TTL to fix Squid issue:
          @JonathanLee

          So a common problem which i really dont know why it happens is why there is a problem specifically with Chrome.
          Chrome will clearly be in conflict with whats in the dns cache and here are the errors
          For example, if i visit Twitter (X) i am unable to load any pictures or video.
          Wireshark reveals the reason why.
          Its always DNS. :)

          Problem outlined: https://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/host_verify_strict/
          Dont really know how to implement this host verify strict command..

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          • JonathanLeeJ
            JonathanLee @michmoor
            last edited by JonathanLee

            @michmoor

            http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/host_verify_strict/

            Have you attempted to set this in advanced options to on or off? It's default is off. I am having this same issue with Apple music and mzstatic making it's own get requests.

            https://forum.netgate.com/topic/182866/universal-procedure-pointers-upp-mzstatic-com-s-mode-of-access-redirector-question/

            I am having the opposite it's apparently approving connection as splice with the same IP sometimes.

            I think under advanced options is where it needs to be.

            host_verify_strict on
            host_verify_strict off

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              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @JonathanLee
              last edited by michmoor

              @JonathanLee I did apply it under advanced options but doesnt seem to have any impact. I still get the /409 errors.
              Do you know where the squid conf file is? I wonder if its really set..

              i got so desperate i set it in each box lol

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                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                last edited by

                But to my point about devices with hard coded dns servers

                Look at this. My IoT television gets its DHCP from my pfsenese. Pfsense hands its IP out as the DNS server yet as you can see from pfblocker its still requesting a google dns.
                Its hard coded in a lot of these devices which is an issue but dont think thats why squid breaks.

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee @michmoor
                  last edited by

                  @michmoor

                  Try

                  /usr/local/etc/squid/squid.conf
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                  • JonathanLeeJ
                    JonathanLee @michmoor
                    last edited by

                    @michmoor

                    I wanted to check with you on Netflix, I forgot to mention I have Hulu and other streaming services set to no cache. Are you attempting to cache Netflix?

                    I set them to never cache on Squid

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                    Did you set a NAT for the DNS rules to force all devices to use the firewall?

                    That should help if you NAT it.

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                    • JonathanLeeJ
                      JonathanLee @michmoor
                      last edited by JonathanLee

                      @michmoor Are you blocking port 53 for 8.8.8.8? it shows a red lock, it should only block port 443 for 8.8.8.8, 53 is the standard or if you use dns over tls ssl 853 that might be the issue, TheGreatWall_DoH is blocking standard port 53 over just the 443 DoH access.

                      Create a NAT rule for all DNS requests that are not being sent to the firewall or it's loopback. And force it to go to the firewall.

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                      • NollipfSenseN
                        NollipfSense
                        last edited by

                        Interesting conversation here, indeed...thanks for sharing!

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                          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @JonathanLee
                          last edited by

                          @JonathanLee
                          Im blocking 53 and 443
                          The red lock in pfblocker should indicate that traffic is being blocked - sinkholed so dont think theres any worry about that.

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                          Floating Rule

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                          So in my case theres no reason i can think of to use Port Forards.

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                          • JonathanLeeJ
                            JonathanLee @michmoor
                            last edited by

                            @michmoor with pfBlocker don't you still need to redirect the clients that are ignoring the DNS settings still? That is interesting, I always have clients that will attempt to use a different DNS all the time with NAT it doesn't matter they go where I configured them too unless they use some new experimental protocol.

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                              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @JonathanLee
                              last edited by

                              @JonathanLee I will try adding a nat redirect just to test to see if it makes things better.

                              To your other question, i am not using Squid Proxy to cache anything.

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                              • JonathanLeeJ
                                JonathanLee @michmoor
                                last edited by

                                @michmoor I love the cache I have DSL/ copper it acts as an accelerator

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                                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @JonathanLee
                                  last edited by

                                  @JonathanLee ahhh
                                  Im on 500/500 Fiber.

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