Navigating to Buy pfSense +
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So really, nothing has changed except the price of how much it would cost.
CE will only be updated for users this go round, and it will gradually be put into the ground.
I think @RobbieTT said it best above.
"Madness."
Good luck everyone, I hope you are satisfied with this decision. I am off to find a new solution.
o7
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Hah, shame on me for test driving 23.09 beta, now I won't get 23.09 full version and can't downgrade to CE either due to mismatched config versions.
I guess I'll either need to revert to an old config, or rebuild everything from scratch in opnsense.
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@HorstZimmermann said in Navigating to Buy pfSense +:
For me personally i am ok with $129 per year.
new blog post: https://www.netgate.com/blog/netgate-pfsense-plus-tac-lite-available-for-129-per-year
Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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@SteveITS oh it is online, thanks
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@adam-lantos Been researching company history and lawsuits, had not realized what a dysfunctional company I'd contracted with!
I empathise with your situation; my short-term goal is leaving all options open.
I have three units, my live home router with Plus and TAC-LITE, a cold backup with Plus and H&L and a recently created one with CE using an import from my live plus unit.
I'm now taking disk images of backup unit, tomorrow I'll take the CE unit live and image the existing live unit. I hope this means I have a way back in all scenarios.
I guess I'm going opnsense, its only replacing pfBlockeNG which is holding me back.
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@AMG-A35
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How to encourage and reward beta testers?
Well, here is one example to consider @NetGate
I have been beta-testing Quicken for many years and several years ago they moved to a subscription model. Here is what they did.
They made the beta test program open to all (current users) and every year they waive an annual subscription cost based on a beta tester's participation.
Frankly, I don't know how they determine the level of good vs bad participation as I never was denied a waiver.
But this sounds like something that can be considered for pfSense as well.
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$129 is a bit steep for home use, maybe something like $50-60 with community support only would have been nice...
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@adam-lantos said in Navigating to Buy pfSense +:
now I won't get 23.09 full version and can't downgrade to CE either due to mismatched config versions.
I think 23.09 is the last they will give us. And then wait for CE 2.8
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Looks like they're offering a 23% discount for Tac Lite (you will see the discount code via the top banner) which brings it down to $99.33 for one year. If you pick two year the discount would also apply which would bring it to 198.66.
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@Darkk They are still out of the money for me.
Ted
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yup, me too. $0
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Definitely a disappointing turn of events, and for a home lab user $129 per year is just far too steep for me personally. A perpetual licence to 'help the cause' (with the ability for easy migration and VM use-cases) I would have done, but I'm not paying to also then beta test as well as supporting people via other channels.
Yes, I could run CE (though, need to look at the path back from 23.09 RC to CE), but part of the home lab interest for me is the strive for continual improvement (and tinkering - where the boot environments is useful).
Do I dig out an old board to run opnsense on to test/setup - maybe/probably. But, the thing is, I actually quite liked the pfsense+ experience (hence why I would have paid a perpetual licence). Damn.
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I think it should be $129 per release instead of per year...
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@NollipfSense said in Navigating to Buy pfSense +:
I think it should be $129 per release instead of per year...
I completely agree. I have 3 installations in different houses, I just can’t handle 129x3 per year. It's 3 times more expensive than my internet costs ;)
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@gisuck , Yeah.... great. Include "Boot Environments" in CE and I am good with that.
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Did anyone catch this on reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/s/fmPjI06ouY
Hmmm..............
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Not really, or rather I didn’t understand at all how the subscription model works for users who already have purchased free licenses. Let’s say I have 13 purchased licenses that were used mainly for the same test equipment.
It’s completely inconvenient to wait for a response on the forum asking for a replacement NDID when I just replaced the network card or changed them in a virtual or physical machine. I have absolutely no idea which license is active where, but of course I know my NDID, where it is currently used. It is clear that only two licenses are actively used; two or three virtual machines are rarely launched. That is, out of 13 licenses, only two are constantly used.Let's say I purchase an annual lite subscription. Does this subscription apply to all licenses I have purchased, or should I additionally write something to someone about NDID?
I'm going to add network cards soon, will this naturally cause a change in the NDID again and, accordingly, new problems?And also, could the opinion about the widespread distribution of illegal plus versions be partly due to such an inconvenience, when in order to change the NDID you need to contact someone from Netgate and people simply ignored this opportunity, because it was stupidly easier to purchase another free license ?
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@w0w On the ordering page it states that the license is applied to the installed instance only which is why it asks for your current Netgate ID.
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I was checking out amazon and a bit confused on why netgate listed their appliance on there with "1 year TAC lite". Are they going to charge for TAC lite on appliances now also or will it be optional?
