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    23.09 release without TAC Lite?

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      NRgia @mvikman
      last edited by NRgia

      @mvikman said in 23.09 release without TAC Lite?:

      @RobbieTT

      I bought TAC Lite support (the page where you enter NDI before adding it to cart) for my existing Home Plus installation and it was visible almost instantly on the Service&Support widget (shows Contract Type as TAC Lite and has start&end dates).

      Just to be clear, in the screen shots attached by @RobbieTT that's the info for unpaid pfSense+ Home/Lab license(I see that exact info), and if you pay you also have a Start and an End date displayed in the widget ?

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @RobbieTT
        last edited by

        @RobbieTT Is that a Home & Lab Plus upgrade? Rather than $0 TAC-Lite?

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          RobbieTT @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10
          I clicked on the $0 TAC-Lite option and subsequently received an invoice for $0.00.

          The invoice itself shows a SKU and 'Home'. I was lead to the understanding that Home & Lab became separate SKUs at some point but I don't know if that is (or was) true.

          I still had to install pfSense first and then install pfSense+. As you know, both of my devices have had numerous changes, test kernels, repartitioning et al so I guess it could have confused the mothership.

          pfSense+ Software Subscription
          Home (Non-commercial use)
          SKU: PPNES-T0N-HM
          $0.00 $0.00 1 $0.00

          ☕️

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            marcg @RobbieTT
            last edited by marcg

            Currently running 23.05.1 on third-party hardware. I purchased the $129 TAC Lite license on Oct 31 ($99.33 with discount). I received a different license SKU from RobbieTT.

            46da4210-6d8a-45e5-b786-474ec8efe073-image.png

            The System>Register page shows the same "Your device does not require registration" message mentioned above. The Status>Dashboard Services And Support Widget does show an active license and the license period, however.

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              mvikman
              last edited by

              I'm guessing the @RobbieTT has the $0 TAC Lite that was available before this license change mess...

              pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
              Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
              Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
              HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
              HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                MoonKnight @stephenw10
                last edited by MoonKnight

                @stephenw10 said in 23.09 release without TAC Lite?:

                If you have a current H+L or tac-lite sub that enabled you to reach 23.09 beta/rc then you should see the release too.

                That would only not be the case if your sub happened to expire before the release.

                Steve

                @stephenw10
                Hi, you mean something like this?
                This is my status on my pfsense box :(
                0711c93c-7ca9-4dde-9b22-944a500cde27-image.png

                --- 24.11 ---
                Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1518 @ 2.20GHz
                Kingston DDR4 2666MHz 16GB ECC
                2 x HyperX Fury SSD 120GB (ZFS-mirror)
                2 x Intel i210 (ports)
                4 x Intel i350 (ports)

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                  mvikman
                  last edited by

                  Because of this mess caused by the sudden license change, I think it would be fair for Netgate to allow those that are currently on 23.09 Beta/RC to update to the Release version regardless of TAC status, as there's is currently no easy way to go from Plus to CE if you are above 23.05 version... Unless the config compatible version of CE is released around the same time as Plus 23.09.

                  pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                  Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                  Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                  HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                  HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @MoonKnight
                    last edited by

                    @MoonKnight Send me your NDI in chat so I can check it.

                    You were able to reach 23.09-beta though even though it had already expired?

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                      MoonKnight @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 said in 23.09 release without TAC Lite?:

                      @MoonKnight Send me your NDI in chat so I can check it.

                      You were able to reach 23.09-beta though even though it had already expired?

                      Hi,
                      I can upgrade if I want to:
                      f56f9932-86d6-4a91-bb72-dc69a1dd9e23-image.png
                      But I'm not sure since my license has expired :)

                      --- 24.11 ---
                      Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1518 @ 2.20GHz
                      Kingston DDR4 2666MHz 16GB ECC
                      2 x HyperX Fury SSD 120GB (ZFS-mirror)
                      2 x Intel i210 (ports)
                      4 x Intel i350 (ports)

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        If you can see the upgrade to RC you will also see the release.

                        Try running at the command line: pfSense-repoc

                        If that returns without error then you still have access to the pkg repos as expected.

                        Steve

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                          MoonKnight @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 said in 23.09 release without TAC Lite?:

                          If you can see the upgrade to RC you will also see the release.

                          Try running at the command line: pfSense-repoc

                          If that returns without error then you still have access to the pkg repos as expected.

                          Steve

                          Hi Steve,

                          No error when I run the command:
                          487cc0e2-c77b-4387-a4a5-42b29e2a7dfa-image.png

                          --- 24.11 ---
                          Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1518 @ 2.20GHz
                          Kingston DDR4 2666MHz 16GB ECC
                          2 x HyperX Fury SSD 120GB (ZFS-mirror)
                          2 x Intel i210 (ports)
                          4 x Intel i350 (ports)

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Looks good then. 👍

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                              Viper_Rus
                              last edited by Viper_Rus

                              I don't understand a little. If I received a pfsense plus home license, say, a month ago, will I still receive updates for another 11 months? I thought netgate would abruptly disable updates for all home users.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                I can't answer that directly. I can say you will see the 23.09-REL update. I can update this when I know anything firmer.

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                                  RobbieTT @Viper_Rus
                                  last edited by

                                  @Viper_Rus

                                  From elsewhere:

                                  @stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                                  It should not be. Existing subs should still function until they expire at least.

                                  Also further updates may still happen here.

                                  @stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                                  Clarification in:

                                  No existing subs will not be cancelled before expiration.

                                  @RobbieTT said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                                  @stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                                  Clarification in:

                                  No existing subs will not be cancelled before expiration.

                                  Can we quote you on that - I mean I just clicked the quote button and everything?

                                  @stephenw10 said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                                  That information came from the top. I cannot imagine what would have to happen to change that position.

                                  I absolutely understand the implications here and in particular how it impacts dev/beta testers. Discussions are ongoing. Hopefully we will have options.

                                  Steve

                                  The above came from this thread. It may not answer everyone's questions but it should give you an idea how things have developed.

                                  ☕️

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                                    NRgia @RobbieTT
                                    last edited by NRgia

                                    (edited) I can confirm I updated from 23.05.1 to 23.09 Release with a home lab free license. Thank you @stephenw10 and Netgate.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes you can.

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                                        Viper_Rus
                                        last edited by

                                        Can you please tell me if pfSense CE 2.7.1 is suitable for migration from Plus 23.09? Do they have the same config version?

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                                          rpotter28 @Viper_Rus
                                          last edited by

                                          @Viper_Rus There is a page for config versions...

                                          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/versions.html

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Yup that^. But it needs to be updated. They are both running config v23.3 right now.

                                            Steve

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