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    • NollipfSenseN
      NollipfSense @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 said in Drivers Loading During Booting Up:

      If you keep hitting ctl+t does the 'r' values count up in seconds for the full delay with the same process?

      Yes indeed; however, I didn't go to the full delay...didn't see the last part of your sentence while trying to get the camera ready. This gives the idea of the 2 minutes and 40 seconds estimation though...

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      pfSense+ 23.09 Lenovo Thinkcentre M93P SFF Quadcore i7 dual Raid-ZFS 128GB-SSD 32GB-RAM PCI-Intel i350-t4 NIC, -Intel QAT 8950.
      pfSense+ 23.09 VM-Proxmox, Dell Precision Xeon-W2155 Nvme 500GB-ZFS 128GB-RAM PCIe-Intel i350-t4, Intel QAT-8950, P-cloud.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Are you able to test removing the QAT card? I'd bet that is the odd chipset that it has in some way.

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        • NollipfSenseN
          NollipfSense @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in Drivers Loading During Booting Up:

          Are you able to test removing the QAT card? I'd bet that is the odd chipset that it has in some way.

          No because it's my production box, don't want to disrupt the rest of the household...I would lose.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Ok I understand. Let me see if I can find anything...

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            • NollipfSenseN
              NollipfSense @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in Drivers Loading During Booting Up:

              Ok I understand. Let me see if I can find anything...

              It turned out that the same e1000 affects the device manager and caused its delay also despite only 20 - 30 seconds...

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                I think you will need to schedule and outage and try booting without the QAT card to confirm that is or isn't the source of the problem here.

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                • NollipfSenseN
                  NollipfSense @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 said in Drivers Loading During Booting Up:

                  I think you will need to schedule and outage and try booting without the QAT card to confirm that is or isn't the source of the problem here.

                  The thing is I don't view it as a problem since the box completed the boot up and operates normally...I was just curious about the delay and learned the cause that appears to be the e1000 driver or the manner it loads. With the private cloud box, which has the same identical NIC and QAT, I know that the delay doesn't happen because it's not using the e1000 driver but instead is using the virtl0/1 paravirtualized driver.

                  I could schedule something on the weekend when the other household gone shopping...maybe it's unnecessary since I can compare with the private cloud box.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Mmm, well it shouldn't happen. But I agree it's not really a problem.

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                    • NollipfSenseN
                      NollipfSense @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in Drivers Loading During Booting Up:

                      Mmm, well it shouldn't happen

                      That makes me even more curious and will schedule a down time this coming weekend. I searched regarding the chipset but could find anything substantive using my regular DuckDuckGo...I'll try the dreaded Google later.

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                        NollipfSense @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 said in Drivers Loading During Booting Up:

                        Mmm, well it shouldn't happen

                        So, I upgraded to v23.09RC and it still takes the same time loading device manager and the cryptographic accelerator driver (E1000)...this seems to confirm it's something about the E1000 driver. Hope to do the QAT removal on Sunday.

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