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Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @AlexanderK
    last edited by Nov 7, 2023, 6:42 PM

    @AlexanderK said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

    What is the PIMD?

    It's a package you have installed:

    <118> Starting package PIMD...done.
    

    I note you also have the UDP broadcast-relay installed and those things server similar functions. You probably don't need both.
    I have only seen that multicast routing bug caused by PIMD or IGMPProxy though.

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      AlexanderK @stephenw10
      last edited by Nov 7, 2023, 8:39 PM

      @stephenw10

      removed both and will check

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        AlexanderK
        last edited by AlexanderK Nov 8, 2023, 3:25 AM Nov 8, 2023, 2:56 AM

        @stephenw10 again reboot and crash report.
        Should i uploaded them again?

        Drop link was valid so i uploaded them.
        Please have a look

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 1:10 PM

          Ok that is almost certainly the PPPoE + IPv6 crash:

          db:1:pfs> bt
          Tracing pid 12 tid 100040 td 0xfffffe0082a58740
          kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00828f4900
          vpanic() at vpanic+0x163/frame 0xfffffe00828f4a30
          panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00828f4a90
          trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x40c/frame 0xfffffe00828f4af0
          trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00828f4b50
          calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00828f4b50
          --- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80f4fc82, rsp = 0xfffffe00828f4c20, rbp = 0xfffffe00828f4d10 ---
          ip6_forward() at ip6_forward+0x7b2/frame 0xfffffe00828f4d10
          ip6_input() at ip6_input+0xa57/frame 0xfffffe00828f4df0
          swi_net() at swi_net+0x128/frame 0xfffffe00828f4e60
          ithread_loop() at ithread_loop+0x257/frame 0xfffffe00828f4ef0
          fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x7f/frame 0xfffffe00828f4f30
          fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe/frame 0xfffffe00828f4f30
          --- trap 0x8d480045, rip = 0x9c840f33384400, rsp = 0x373844ce8b410000, rbp = 0x51e8d48b49000000 ---
          

          https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14431

          I assume your PPPoE link went down at that time?

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            AlexanderK @stephenw10
            last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 2:13 PM

            @stephenw10 yes every night at 3 a.m. i reset my wan connection
            So you have found the bug we are discussing about?

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              RobbieTT @AlexanderK
              last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 2:21 PM

              @AlexanderK said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

              @stephenw10 yes every night at 3 a.m. i reset my wan connection
              So you have found the bug we are discussing about?

              Of course - you are not alone in having this issue - hence the redmine activity and additional fault-finding. The first part of this issue was fixed a while back but the 'fix' unmasked a deeper problem.

              ☕️

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                AlexanderK @RobbieTT
                last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 2:23 PM

                @RobbieTT so we disable ipv6 and wait for the fix?

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                  RobbieTT @AlexanderK
                  last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 2:33 PM

                  @AlexanderK said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                  @RobbieTT so we disable ipv6 and wait for the fix?

                  It's going to up to the individual users. I need IPv6 so turning it off is not an option. I also have no option for WAN other than PPPoE, so that is fixed too.

                  I also cannot be without a connection, so have another box ready to go. I also cannot leave it to my wife and/or daughter to sort-out when I am away and they are working from home - so I have to have a non-pfSense option for those periods.

                  It hasn't been a great experience for me but pfSense needs* contributors to get these things addressed.

                  ☕️

                  * Well, ignoring the recent kick-in-the-face for dev users. That behaviour will have to change or pfSense will start to die, just like many others before them.

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 2:34 PM

                    Is there a reason you are resetting it every night? Though obviously that shouldn't trigger this.

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                      AlexanderK @stephenw10
                      last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 3:47 PM

                      @stephenw10
                      For privacy....old habits...
                      New day...new ip...

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 4:00 PM

                        Ah OK just to cycle a new WAN IP? Do you actually get a new IPv6 IP doing that?

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                          AlexanderK @stephenw10
                          last edited by Nov 8, 2023, 6:07 PM

                          @stephenw10

                          i haven't noticed about ipv6 but ipv4 is new every time.

                          i have some personal selfhosted apps and by changing ip every day i think i protect them somehow....

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                            AlexanderK
                            last edited by Nov 19, 2023, 5:48 AM

                            Second day with 2.7.1 and no reboots at all.
                            I don't know what have changed but there is no reboot at all.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Nov 19, 2023, 2:11 PM

                              Even though you're still resetting the connection every night?

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                                AlexanderK @stephenw10
                                last edited by Nov 19, 2023, 6:33 PM

                                @stephenw10
                                yes no issues at all.

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                                  AlexanderK
                                  last edited by Nov 22, 2023, 6:23 AM

                                  After 3 days of continuous operation...
                                  Reboots are back

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by Nov 22, 2023, 1:23 PM

                                    Interesting. I would expect them to still be there since we didn't add anything to address it directly yet. However the fact it didn't happen for some days could be a clue....

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                                      RobbieTT @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Nov 22, 2023, 1:50 PM

                                      @stephenw10

                                      It's always been intermittent for me, so the behaviour change may be just one of those things.

                                      ☕️

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                                        AlexanderK
                                        last edited by Jan 2, 2024, 9:41 AM

                                        anything new about this?

                                        i have reboots every 3-4 days...and every time i have crash reports.
                                        This is something that it wasn't happening with previous versions.

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Jan 2, 2024, 3:18 PM

                                          No update. I'll re-raise it.

                                          You see crashes then only about 25% of the time? You reset the PPPoE every night still?

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