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    Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Doh!

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        AlexanderK @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10
        yes exactly the same
        i had 2 crashes. will upload them

        done!
        please check and let me know

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Ok I see them. Checking....

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Ok one of those is different. It looks like this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14917
            Almost certainly because you're running PIMD. Are you able to test running without PIMD?

            That and the PPPoE bug are likely related if not actually the same root cause IMO. The interface is detached without closing/clearing the connections on it.

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              AlexanderK @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10
              What is the PIMD?

              The issue with PPPOE is that i reset my connection everything night at 3 am. After resetting i have kernel panic and reboot

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @AlexanderK
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                @AlexanderK said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                What is the PIMD?

                It's a package you have installed:

                <118> Starting package PIMD...done.

                I note you also have the UDP broadcast-relay installed and those things server similar functions. You probably don't need both.
                I have only seen that multicast routing bug caused by PIMD or IGMPProxy though.

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                  AlexanderK @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10

                  removed both and will check

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                    AlexanderK
                    last edited by AlexanderK

                    @stephenw10 again reboot and crash report.
                    Should i uploaded them again?

                    Drop link was valid so i uploaded them.
                    Please have a look

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Ok that is almost certainly the PPPoE + IPv6 crash:

                      db:1:pfs> bt
Tracing pid 12 tid 100040 td 0xfffffe0082a58740
kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x32/frame 0xfffffe00828f4900
vpanic() at vpanic+0x163/frame 0xfffffe00828f4a30
panic() at panic+0x43/frame 0xfffffe00828f4a90
trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x40c/frame 0xfffffe00828f4af0
trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x4f/frame 0xfffffe00828f4b50
calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame 0xfffffe00828f4b50
--- trap 0xc, rip = 0xffffffff80f4fc82, rsp = 0xfffffe00828f4c20, rbp = 0xfffffe00828f4d10 ---
ip6_forward() at ip6_forward+0x7b2/frame 0xfffffe00828f4d10
ip6_input() at ip6_input+0xa57/frame 0xfffffe00828f4df0
swi_net() at swi_net+0x128/frame 0xfffffe00828f4e60
ithread_loop() at ithread_loop+0x257/frame 0xfffffe00828f4ef0
fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x7f/frame 0xfffffe00828f4f30
fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe/frame 0xfffffe00828f4f30
--- trap 0x8d480045, rip = 0x9c840f33384400, rsp = 0x373844ce8b410000, rbp = 0x51e8d48b49000000 ---

                      https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14431

                      I assume your PPPoE link went down at that time?

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                        AlexanderK @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 yes every night at 3 a.m. i reset my wan connection
                        So you have found the bug we are discussing about?

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                          RobbieTT @AlexanderK
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                          @AlexanderK said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                          @stephenw10 yes every night at 3 a.m. i reset my wan connection
                          So you have found the bug we are discussing about?

                          Of course - you are not alone in having this issue - hence the redmine activity and additional fault-finding. The first part of this issue was fixed a while back but the 'fix' unmasked a deeper problem.

                          ☕️

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                            AlexanderK @RobbieTT
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                            @RobbieTT so we disable ipv6 and wait for the fix?

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                              RobbieTT @AlexanderK
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                              @AlexanderK said in Wan periodic reset causes system reboot.:

                              @RobbieTT so we disable ipv6 and wait for the fix?

                              It's going to up to the individual users. I need IPv6 so turning it off is not an option. I also have no option for WAN other than PPPoE, so that is fixed too.

                              I also cannot be without a connection, so have another box ready to go. I also cannot leave it to my wife and/or daughter to sort-out when I am away and they are working from home - so I have to have a non-pfSense option for those periods.

                              It hasn't been a great experience for me but pfSense needs* contributors to get these things addressed.

                              ☕️

                              * Well, ignoring the recent kick-in-the-face for dev users. That behaviour will have to change or pfSense will start to die, just like many others before them.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Is there a reason you are resetting it every night? Though obviously that shouldn't trigger this.

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                                  AlexanderK @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  For privacy....old habits...
                                  New day...new ip...

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Ah OK just to cycle a new WAN IP? Do you actually get a new IPv6 IP doing that?

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                                      AlexanderK @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10

                                      i haven't noticed about ipv6 but ipv4 is new every time.

                                      i have some personal selfhosted apps and by changing ip every day i think i protect them somehow....

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                                        AlexanderK
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                                        Second day with 2.7.1 and no reboots at all.
                                        I don't know what have changed but there is no reboot at all.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Even though you're still resetting the connection every night?

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                                            AlexanderK @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10
                                            yes no issues at all.

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