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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee
      last edited by JonathanLee

      I want the web cache support for Squid is what I am after. I am going to be stuck in 23.05.01 land until the end of time.

      th.jpeg

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        mcury @JonathanLee
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        @JonathanLee said in OpenSense on SG-2100:

        I want the web cache support for Squid is what I am after.

        Just out of curiosity, how many hits do you have in your proxy's cache ?

        304 is the code you are looking for.
        200 is a miss, so that doesn't count.

        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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        • bmeeksB
          bmeeks @JonathanLee
          last edited by

          @JonathanLee said in OpenSense on SG-2100:

          I want the web cache support for Squid

          Why? What is your Internet speed? The cache was really only of value eons ago when speeds were dial-up level. And a fair amount of stuff today from the web is dynamic and may well have the "no-cache" tag embedded in it anyway.

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          • JonathanLeeJ
            JonathanLee
            last edited by JonathanLee

            I still use DSL I have tons of hits, pages of them plus ClamAV blocks https items all the time for me. πŸ‘ You can set the no cache tag to ignore in squid also if needed. Dynamic cache of Windows updates also.

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            • bmeeksB
              bmeeks @JonathanLee
              last edited by bmeeks

              @JonathanLee said in OpenSense on SG-2100:

              You can set the no cache tag to ignore in squid also if needed.

              But usually web sites set that "no-cache" tag for a valid reason, and the most common is some dynamic content on the page relies on a fresh copy of said content. So overrriding the "no-cache" tag can result in a non-functional or otherwise broken web page-- including some not-so-obvious breakage that might be significant.

              Squid is generally considered as a technology whose time came and went about 10 years ago. And some argue it's even farther back than that. Go read some of the posts and debate in the Squid vulnerability thread over on the OPNsense forum.

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by jimp

                If you absolutely have to have a proxy, you should setup a local proxy VM or system (or even a docker container) on a dedicated device instead of running it on your edge/firewall. You can still redirect traffic to it or configure clients to use it directly. I'd be surprised if it was doing as much for you as you think, especially on a 2100.

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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @bmeeks
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                  @bmeeks I think a value-add to the package is the MITM aspect. Unfortenly most if not all of the blocklists that were used for Squid are no longer or just not good when compared to commercial products.
                  Im of two minds about it.
                  Squid is an oldie but a goodie. It can still have some relevance today for page blocking or content control albeit in limited scope.If you have a proxy in the path, you cant bypass at all. DoH is a game of wack-a-mole. Easy to do but can be easily bypassed.

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                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @jimp
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                    @jimp
                    This was suggested on Reddit and i think its a good idea if one has the resources.
                    Squid with the unresolved CVEs is probably best sitting behind a firewall . I dunno. Just a thought.

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                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @JonathanLee
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                      @JonathanLee said in OpenSense on SG-2100:

                      I want the web cache support for Squid is what I am after. I am going to be stuck in 23.05.01 land until the end of time.

                      23.09 includes Squid per the blog post.

                      re: cache, SSD is recommended for the disk writes on eMMC...
                      https://www.netgate.com/supported-pfsense-plus-packages
                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/disk-lifetime.html

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                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @SteveITS
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                        @JonathanLee I see from one of your other posts you have a Max so never mind this comment. I like to post it when it comes up since many don't know about the recommendation list (which would help if it was in the docs, or linked from the docs; AFAIK it isn't).

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Indeed Squid is in 23.09. I agree though, running a separate internal proxy is probably a better option.

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                            last edited by michmoor

                            @stephenw10
                            To be fair, commercial solutions like Cisco Umbrella or Zorus do a really better job at this whole proxy thing.
                            I know there isn’t a home lab or SMB pricing that makes sense which is really the pain point here for mostly everyone.
                            Also I’m not aware of any commercial proxy to be used internally. Is BlueCoat still a thing?

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee @michmoor
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                              @michmoor what is bluecoat? I have Squid 6.6 running great in 24 minor issue the status page changed to non squidclient based. But other than that it has a lot of the CVEs fixed I am told it’s the latest and greatest.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                If you want to proxy and filter all the traffic from/to a small country you call Bluecoat. πŸ˜‰

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                                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  SWG are the future. Its been the future? Its here now :)

                                  https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/access-management/what-is-a-secure-web-gateway/

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    'SWG' seems like another acronym for what has been around for years. Maybe with a shinier front end glued onto it. πŸ˜‰

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                                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10
                                      lol oh for sure !

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