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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Hmm, no states on WAN is an issue. How are you testing?

      Do you see states or bytes on the WAN firewall rue that should be passing that?

      The acme testing option is here:
      Screenshot from 2023-12-20 22-55-46.png

      But of nothing is even reaching WAN that's probably not the issue

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        lewis @stephenw10
        last edited by lewis

        @stephenw10 said in SSL certs handling and HAproxy:

        Hmm, no states on WAN is an issue. How are you testing?

        Do you see states or bytes on the WAN firewall rue that should be passing that?

        The acme testing option is here:
        Screenshot from 2023-12-20 22-55-46.png

        But of nothing is even reaching WAN that's probably not the issue

        The WAN seems to have a lot of traffic, just not to this web server.
        Thanks for the image, it turns out it is in testing mode.
        I've changed it to LE production but still no go.

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          lewis
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          Just to confirm, I should be seeing traffic on WAN to the web server, in this case, 10.0.0.180.

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            lewis
            last edited by lewis

            Alright, I do see traffic on the WAN from public IPs to the VIP.
            It's looking like the problem is only on the web server now?

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Yes to the VIP where the HAProxy front end is listening.

              Ok those states look better, two way traffic at least. They are not going to stay established if the client is dropping the connection due to a bad cert.

              If you examine the cert on the client when you try to connect is it using a valid CA?

              If ACME was set to use the staging server it wouldn't be valid. It would need to update with the real production cert before clients recognise it as signed by a valid CA.

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                lewis
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                Yes, I think we're getting somewhere.
                This is what I'm seeing about the certificate;

                ---
                Server certificate
                subject=CN = domain.com
                
                issuer=C = US, O = (STAGING) Let's Encrypt, CN = (STAGING) Artificial Apricot R3
                
                ---
                No client certificate CA names sent
                Peer signing digest: SHA256
                Peer signature type: RSA-PSS
                Server Temp Key: X25519, 253 bits
                ---
                SSL handshake has read 4661 bytes and written 409 bytes
                Verification error: unable to get local issuer certificate
                ---
                New, TLSv1.3, Cipher is TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
                Server public key is 2048 bit
                Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported
                Compression: NONE
                Expansion: NONE
                No ALPN negotiated
                Early data was not sent
                Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)
                
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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Aha! OK then that's the first hurdle. The client is connecting to HAProxy at least.

                  So you need to renew the cert now it's set to the production server.

                  Then see what is broken next. 😉

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                    lewis
                    last edited by lewis

                    Ok, I've renewed it and no change. Still shows as staging even though I've changed it to production.
                    The one difference however is now I'm seeing connections to the web server but all of them are getting a 301.

                    The bad thing about doing this is if all I'm going to see are connections from the pfsense device IP, that's going to remove all logging data that is always needed to better understand traffic and so on.

                    TOR still gets an HSTS error and firefox is still complaining "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead".

                    SSL test still shows;

                    New, TLSv1.3, Cipher is TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
                    Server public key is 2048 bit
                    Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported
                    Compression: NONE
                    Expansion: NONE
                    No ALPN negotiated
                    Early data was not sent
                    Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)
                    

                    I'm not convinced the problem is with the web server because if I set up a NAT rule again, then it works fine.
                    This implies there is still something on ACME or haproxy that is not allowing the SSL cert to be used properly.

                    Could it have something to do with how the cert is being generated by ACME since there seems to be some small mismatch between the host/hostname/domain or something and the ACME cert being generated.

                    There are no errors when ACME renews the cert, all green, all confirmed, looks correct.

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                      lewis
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                      I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the cert is being handled by ACME but once the browser hits the web server, that has it's own self signed cert so maybe a mismatch?

                      However, I cannot fire up the service without a cert if I allow https connections so added teh self signed cert.
                      Why is this so complicated? No wonder I wasn't able to follow any article I could find to get this working.

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                        lewis
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                        Weird, searching online for help on this leads to so many things but mostly, our own thread now.
                        I cannot find anything that helps me to solve this.

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                          lewis
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                          One thing I notice is that even with the 'production' setting, the re-generated cert always shows staging;
                          issuer=C = US, O = (STAGING) Let's Encrypt, CN = (STAGING) Artificial Apricot R3

                          When I re-issue and it shows the green page, there is no mention of staging anywhere.

                          It's nuts how many articles contradict each other when trying to find anything on this.

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                          • kiokomanK
                            kiokoman LAYER 8 @lewis
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                            @lewis
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                            so you have registered for production

                            now you should see something with Issuer

                            Acmecert: O=Let's Encrypt, CN=R3, C=US

                            under system / certificates /certificates

                            if you see it than you need to go to haproxy and change, under ssl offloading , the certificate

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                              lewis
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                              Holy crap, I finally got it working.
                              I don't even know where to start to show what I did because I tried so many things.
                              The last thing I did was in the backend, changing the server list Table from port 80 to port 443 and enabling Encrypt(SSL).

                              The main problem I have now is still not knowing what the correct configuration of the web server should be.
                              It's using a self signed cert now but this is a stand alone web server. Some of them have lots of virtualhosts.

                              And, what SSL options will be used? The ones on ACME/haproxy or the ones set in ssl.conf/httpd.conf on the web server?

                              Plus, now I'd like to fix the 'load balanced' server that never actually worked.

                              And, how can I forward the visiting IPs? I only see the firewall's IP in the logs which is not useful.
                              I found this but it doesn't send the visiting IP;
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                                kiokoman LAYER 8 @lewis
                                last edited by kiokoman

                                @lewis
                                if you can, don't use cert on web server just point to port 80
                                people will connect to haproxy and use the cert from ACME/haproxy but haproxy will speak to the web server with the self signed cert

                                on the backend add all the server that will do balance under "server list", set a Weight (10 / 20 /30 etc etc) and select round robin under load balancing

                                backend but carefully read the warning

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                                  lewis
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                                  I can't point to port 80 because all of the sites are built using https only.
                                  Any sites I'd like to add would be https.

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                                  • kiokomanK
                                    kiokoman LAYER 8 @lewis
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                                    @lewis
                                    not a big problem, it's just for convenience, create a self signed cert with all the domains you have

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                                      lewis @kiokoman
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                                      @kiokoman said in SSL certs handling and HAproxy:

                                      @lewis
                                      not a big problem, it's just for convenience, create a self signed cert with all the domains you have

                                      What does that mean, 'with all of the domains'?
                                      Do you mean you have to generate a self signed cert for each domain or there's a way to do one that has all of the names?

                                      And more importantly, will https use the always updates SSL options that LE offers or will visitors end up using what ever the Apache server is configured with?

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                                      • kiokomanK
                                        kiokoman LAYER 8 @lewis
                                        last edited by kiokoman

                                        @lewis
                                        visitors will use and see only the ACME cert

                                        with openssl you can create 1 cert with all domains name

                                        make a copy and edit openssl.cfg

                                        Under the [ CA_default ] section, change the line (uncomment the line) # copy_extensions = copy to copy_extensions = copy

                                        Under the [ v3_ca ] section,

                                        change the line # subjectAltName=email:copy to subjectAltName=@alt_names

                                        add a new line with extendedKeyUsage = serverAuth

                                        Go to the end of the file and add
                                        [ alt_names ]

                                        if the server has multiple address expected to be used for connection, you should add multiple entries under [ alt_names ]. For example,

                                        [ alt_names ]

                                        DNS.1 = app.example.com

                                        DNS.2 = app2.example.com

                                        DNS.3 = app3.example.com

                                        IP.1 = 192.168.1.1

                                        IP.2 = 10.10.10.10

                                        under cmd if you use windows:

                                        set OPENSSL_CONF=C:\OpenSSL-Win64\bin\openssl.cfg (change the directory to where you have your modified copy of openssl.cfg)
                                        openssl genrsa -out ServerKey.key 2048
                                        openssl req -x509 -new -key ServerKey.key -sha256 -days 825 -out myCA.cer
                                        

                                        if you need pkcs12

                                        openssl pkcs12 -export -out keystore.p12 -inkey ServerKey.key -in myCA.cer
                                        

                                        These are notes I have and they should still work... probably ...

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                                          lewis
                                          last edited by lewis

                                          Getting the visitor IP is simple enough.
                                          In httpd.conf, I changed;

                                          LogFormat "%v %h %l %u %t "%r" %>s %b %D %^FB "%{Referer}i" "%{User-Agent}i"" combined
                                          to
                                          LogFormat "%v %a %l %u %t "%r" %>s %b %D %^FB "%{Referer}i" "%{User-Agent}i"" combined
                                          (%h to %a)

                                          And added this directive;
                                          RemoteIPHeader X-Forwarded-For

                                          In haproxy, Frontend, Advanced, I enabled;
                                          6d37c7a4-b559-48e7-8736-80c7cb756995-image.png

                                          Now I see the actual visitor IP.

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                                            lewis @kiokoman
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                                            @kiokoman said in SSL certs handling and HAproxy:

                                            visitors will use and see only the ACME cert

                                            Not sure I understand this. One cert can handle one or more virtual hosts on one web server?

                                            The web servers do not have more than one IP, just one but some have lots of virtualhosts, so, different domain names.
                                            And of course, since I have to use port 80/443 for many of those domains, I have a bunch of VIPs on pfsense.

                                            if you need pkcs12

                                            Don't even know what that is unless I look it up so probably not :).

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