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      rakya @SteveITS
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      @SteveITS
      Here are the advanced settings
      DNS resolver adv settings 1.png DNS resolver adv settings 2.png DNS resolver adv settings 3.png

      The access list is empty

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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        @rakya said in No internet on LAN:

        The access list is empty

        it would be if your doing auto, if you had no acls set.. Then you wouldn't even get back pfsense name when you did a nslookup, and your query would come back refused.

        for example.. I disabled my acl that allows my machine network to talk to unbound.. and you see.

        refused.jpg

        Something is very odd... I fired up my 2.7.2 vm to see if something is different with that command on it vs my + version..

        unboundroots.jpg

        You got something really funky going on that is for sure.

        edit: when was the last time you restarted unbound? Could you try restarting it.. You for sure should see roots listed there..

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          rakya @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz I restarted unbound from the webgui, but still seeing the same behavior with the unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup . command, and the same ping behavior.

          should I try to reinstall? or should I look into adding custom ACLs, like you did?

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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            @rakya the acl would have zero to do with you not seeing the roots with that above command.

            At the moment I am at a loss to what could cause that to be honest.

            I removed all acls - and I can still query for the roots..

            Since I am at a loss to what to try, a clean install sure couldn't hurt, I mean its not working now..

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              I would try disabling dnssec in Unbound. It may have failed to pull in the valid keys at first boot because of the original subnet conflict. Though I would have expected it to do so on subsequent reboots. And to be logging an error somewhere.

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                rakya @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz @stephenw10
                Unfortunately I did not take a snapshot, because I have tried multiple times to reinstall, and am completely unable to get a WAN address from the installer, as well as multiple attempts to assign the interfaces , and the set interface IPs

                no-WAN-install.png

                THis happened last time, but eventaully I was able to get to a promt that told me to ensure the WAN link was up/plugged-in and press enter, then did the same for LAN, and that was how I was able to get an address for both WAN/LAN

                currently I cant even get to the web configurator when connected to the LAN

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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                  @rakya well your not going to be able get anywhere without a wan ip.. If your wan is 192.168.1 your going to need to change your lan IP when you first set it up.

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                    rakya @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz @SteveITS
                    Any ideas on how to work the install to see why I am not getting a WAN address?
                    If I plug the same cable that I am trying to (and was previously successful) use as a WAN connection into my laptop or phone, I am immediately connected to my buildings LAN -
                    Which Im not keen on since I was able to confirm I can Wireshark my neighbors traffic from my parking lot!
                    I dont know if that LAN/WAN introduces a subnet conflict, as @stephenw10 thought in the first reply 3 days ago... Any thoughts?

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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                      @rakya if you can not get a IP your wan, its never going to work.. But your lan and wan can not overlap if you want connectivity to work.. When you install pfsense you can set the IP on the lan to something other than the 192.168.1 network..

                      What is this wan connectivity exactly..

                      I was able to confirm I can Wireshark my neighbors traffic from my parking lot!

                      Huh?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @rakya
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                        @rakya said in No internet on LAN:

                        I moved my LAN IP to 192.168.0.1

                        Do that again. At least as a test. If there is a conflict between WAN and LAN it will always fail.

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                          rakya @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz
                          I'm an idiot and didn't realize the interfaces on the NIC cards were reversed in software from my last install. I have a WAN now, and I have a totally stock installation, but I am seeing the same ping behavior as before.
                          I can ping 8.8.8.8, but not google.com
                          nslookup cannot find www.google.com

                          I also see the same reply to unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup .

                          The following name servers are used for lookup of .
                          no delegation from cache; goes to configured roots
                          
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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Something upstream blocking DNS maybe?

                            We previously saw that pfSense can resolve against the server passed by the upstream router. Can it resolve against anything else:

                            [2.7.2-RELEASE][admin@t70.stevew.lan]/root: dig +short @8.8.8.8 google.com
                            172.217.16.238
                            
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                              rakya @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10
                              That dig command seems to work...
                              116b2898-b783-4f76-9ea4-40eb1de8854d-image.png

                              But when I run it without the 8.8.8.8 reference and try to trace I get nothing
                              321592e3-7a0a-4d07-87c5-4eff00fc70b9-image.png

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Did you try disabling dnssec?

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                                  rakya @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  Yep. Just did (saved & applied changes), but no luck. Same behavior in ping, unbound-control, and dig

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    @rakya at a loss to what would cause that.. Your saying this is clean out of the box install and you get that

                                    no delegation from cache; goes to configured roots

                                    Could you try setting your outbound in unbound interface to something other than all, I just use localhost, but you could try localhost and lan, etc..

                                    That response is weird..

                                    localhost.jpg

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                                      rakya @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz
                                      I set it to localhost and nothing happend, but then I set it to LAN and looks like everything is WORKING!!!

                                      Looks like it is a combination of DNS outbound network interface set to LAN and DNSSEC being disabled

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        @rakya dnssec shouldn't be the problem..

                                        So you now see the roots when you do that command?

                                        If you were forwarding I would for sure suggest turning off dnssec, but if your resolving which is what unbound does out of the box - dnssec is good thing to have enabled.

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                                          rakya @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz
                                          set DNSSEC to disabled first, then I set DNS outbound network interface to LAN and I was able to watch youtube
                                          I then re-enabled DNSSEC and websites no longer work. I woujld like to have DNSSEC set up given my unsecure building settings...

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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                                            @rakya dnssec should work out of the box.. could you do a simple test

                                            on pfsense do

                                            dig @1.2.3.4 www.google.com

                                            This should not answer, if it does your dns is being intercepted..

                                            1.2.3.4 should not answer for dns.. If it does then something is intercepting/redirecting your dns.

                                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/: dig @1.2.3.4 www.google.com
                                            ;; communications error to 1.2.3.4#53: timed out
                                            ;; communications error to 1.2.3.4#53: timed out
                                            ;; communications error to 1.2.3.4#53: timed out
                                            
                                            ; <<>> DiG 9.18.16 <<>> @1.2.3.4 www.google.com
                                            ; (1 server found)
                                            ;; global options: +cmd
                                            ;; no servers could be reached
                                            
                                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/: 
                                            

                                            But here for example on a client where I redirect dns..

                                            $ dig @1.2.3.4 www.google.com                                                
                                                                                                                         
                                            ; <<>> DiG 9.16.45 <<>> @1.2.3.4 www.google.com                              
                                            ; (1 server found)                                                           
                                            ;; global options: +cmd                                                      
                                            ;; Got answer:                                                               
                                            ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6040                     
                                            ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1         
                                                                                                                         
                                            ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:                                                        
                                            ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232                                        
                                            ;; QUESTION SECTION:                                                         
                                            ;www.google.com.                        IN      A                            
                                                                                                                         
                                            ;; ANSWER SECTION:                                                           
                                            www.google.com.         30      IN      A       142.250.190.100              
                                                                                                                         
                                            ;; Query time: 4 msec                                                        
                                            ;; SERVER: 1.2.3.4#53(1.2.3.4)                                               
                                            ;; WHEN: Mon Jan 22 22:38:31 Central Standard Time 2024                      
                                            ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 59                                                        
                                            

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