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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @rakya
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      @rakya Out of the box it should just work implying something changed. Can you compare an earlier config file? There’s a recent history : https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/backup/restore.html#restoring-from-the-config-history

      Or post your Resolver page(s).

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @SteveITS
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        @SteveITS said in No internet on LAN:

        Or post your Resolver page(s).

        really more interested in seeing the output of

        "unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup ."

        that trace should of shown the roots.. why it isn't if in resolving mode would explain why dns is not working.. If in forwarding mode it would show where to forward.. For example I switched it to forward mode, but didn't put in anything forward, it showed error.

        error.jpg

        I then setup up to forward to 9.9.9.9, so the output of the above cmd shows that

        forward.jpg

        So if unbound is trying to forward, where you forward should be in that output, if your resolve, then the roots should be in there. If there is nothing then no its never going to work.

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          rakya @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz @SteveITS
          Here is my DNS resolver Status page (is this what you meant by Resolver page(s)?)
          DNS resolver status 1.png DNS resolver status 2.png

          This is the result of unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup .
          unbound_DNS_conf lookup.png
          so it looks like it has no clue who to talk to, but then why is the Diag/DNS lookup able to get proper addresses? Also is there a way to investigate further on what are the "configured roots"?

          In terms of earlier configs, here is a diff file for as far back as the system goes (9 days)
          jan20_pfSense-total.diff

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @rakya
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            @rakya I meant, all the settings :)

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              rakya @SteveITS
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              @SteveITS
              ok here are the general setting
              DNS resolver settings 1.png DNS resolver settings 2.png

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                rakya @SteveITS
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                @SteveITS
                Here are the advanced settings
                DNS resolver adv settings 1.png DNS resolver adv settings 2.png DNS resolver adv settings 3.png

                The access list is empty

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @rakya said in No internet on LAN:

                  The access list is empty

                  it would be if your doing auto, if you had no acls set.. Then you wouldn't even get back pfsense name when you did a nslookup, and your query would come back refused.

                  for example.. I disabled my acl that allows my machine network to talk to unbound.. and you see.

                  refused.jpg

                  Something is very odd... I fired up my 2.7.2 vm to see if something is different with that command on it vs my + version..

                  unboundroots.jpg

                  You got something really funky going on that is for sure.

                  edit: when was the last time you restarted unbound? Could you try restarting it.. You for sure should see roots listed there..

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                    rakya @johnpoz
                    last edited by rakya

                    @johnpoz I restarted unbound from the webgui, but still seeing the same behavior with the unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup . command, and the same ping behavior.

                    should I try to reinstall? or should I look into adding custom ACLs, like you did?

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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                      @rakya the acl would have zero to do with you not seeing the roots with that above command.

                      At the moment I am at a loss to what could cause that to be honest.

                      I removed all acls - and I can still query for the roots..

                      Since I am at a loss to what to try, a clean install sure couldn't hurt, I mean its not working now..

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        I would try disabling dnssec in Unbound. It may have failed to pull in the valid keys at first boot because of the original subnet conflict. Though I would have expected it to do so on subsequent reboots. And to be logging an error somewhere.

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                          rakya @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz @stephenw10
                          Unfortunately I did not take a snapshot, because I have tried multiple times to reinstall, and am completely unable to get a WAN address from the installer, as well as multiple attempts to assign the interfaces , and the set interface IPs

                          no-WAN-install.png

                          THis happened last time, but eventaully I was able to get to a promt that told me to ensure the WAN link was up/plugged-in and press enter, then did the same for LAN, and that was how I was able to get an address for both WAN/LAN

                          currently I cant even get to the web configurator when connected to the LAN

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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                            @rakya well your not going to be able get anywhere without a wan ip.. If your wan is 192.168.1 your going to need to change your lan IP when you first set it up.

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                              rakya @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz @SteveITS
                              Any ideas on how to work the install to see why I am not getting a WAN address?
                              If I plug the same cable that I am trying to (and was previously successful) use as a WAN connection into my laptop or phone, I am immediately connected to my buildings LAN -
                              Which Im not keen on since I was able to confirm I can Wireshark my neighbors traffic from my parking lot!
                              I dont know if that LAN/WAN introduces a subnet conflict, as @stephenw10 thought in the first reply 3 days ago... Any thoughts?

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @rakya
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                                @rakya if you can not get a IP your wan, its never going to work.. But your lan and wan can not overlap if you want connectivity to work.. When you install pfsense you can set the IP on the lan to something other than the 192.168.1 network..

                                What is this wan connectivity exactly..

                                I was able to confirm I can Wireshark my neighbors traffic from my parking lot!

                                Huh?

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @rakya
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                                  @rakya said in No internet on LAN:

                                  I moved my LAN IP to 192.168.0.1

                                  Do that again. At least as a test. If there is a conflict between WAN and LAN it will always fail.

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                                    rakya @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz
                                    I'm an idiot and didn't realize the interfaces on the NIC cards were reversed in software from my last install. I have a WAN now, and I have a totally stock installation, but I am seeing the same ping behavior as before.
                                    I can ping 8.8.8.8, but not google.com
                                    nslookup cannot find www.google.com

                                    I also see the same reply to unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf lookup .

                                    The following name servers are used for lookup of .
                                    no delegation from cache; goes to configured roots
                                    
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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Something upstream blocking DNS maybe?

                                      We previously saw that pfSense can resolve against the server passed by the upstream router. Can it resolve against anything else:

                                      [2.7.2-RELEASE][admin@t70.stevew.lan]/root: dig +short @8.8.8.8 google.com
                                      172.217.16.238
                                      
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                                        rakya @stephenw10
                                        last edited by rakya

                                        @stephenw10
                                        That dig command seems to work...
                                        116b2898-b783-4f76-9ea4-40eb1de8854d-image.png

                                        But when I run it without the 8.8.8.8 reference and try to trace I get nothing
                                        321592e3-7a0a-4d07-87c5-4eff00fc70b9-image.png

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Did you try disabling dnssec?

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                                            rakya @stephenw10
                                            last edited by rakya

                                            @stephenw10
                                            Yep. Just did (saved & applied changes), but no luck. Same behavior in ping, unbound-control, and dig

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