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    • UnoptanioU
      Unoptanio @stephenw10
      last edited by Unoptanio

      @stephenw10

      With pfsense the CPU load is always at 0%, 1% no more for the moment.

      Yes, temperatures are low.

      The same machine with Windows 11 in idle recorded around 35/40°C but perhaps the CPU load is greater

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      pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
      CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
      n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, interesting. Windows is often better at using the CPU power saving features. I guess not the case here.

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        • T
          tman222
          last edited by

          Just to add another data point here, one system I run pfSense on has an Intel i3-10100 CPU (65W TDP, like the OP's CPU), which shows similar temps when lightly loaded (approx. upper 20's degrees C).

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          • UnoptanioU
            Unoptanio @tman222
            last edited by Unoptanio

            @tman222
            Hello,

            the only way to try to make the cpu work a little harder was to use an openvpn connection. I saw that the maximum is 3%. Probably with multiple simultaneous openvpn connections the percentage of CPU load increases further. I had read that if you use many simultaneous OpenVPN connections you need to choose more powerful CPUs, for this reason I put an Intel I7-13700 (it is still oversized).

            Do you know if there is a stress test inside pfsense to test the system?

            Before installing pfsense on this new machine I installed Windows 11 and did stress tests with AIDA64 to see if it was stable. I also updated the motherboard firmware to the latest version.

            My motherboard is:
            https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/IMB-X1314
            Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314 Micro ATX Motherboard with 32Gb Ram ECC Unbuffered
            with n.3 integrated Intel-i225 LM and n.1 card Intel I350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN PCi Ex 2.0 4x

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            My rack case 2U is this:
            https://www.multicase.de/en/products/17/ipcc236.html
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            My CPU Cooler for case 2U: Q5 Dynatron MAXIMUM POWER 185 W
            https://www.dynatron.co/product-page/q5
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            N.2 Samsung 870 EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB in Raid1 ZFS

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            Standard Power supply: Asus ROG STRIX 750W Gold (16-pin cable)
            https://rog.asus.com/power-supply-units/rog-strix/rog-strix-750g/

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            pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
            CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
            n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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            • UnoptanioU
              Unoptanio @stephenw10
              last edited by Unoptanio

              @stephenw10

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              For my configuration which of these two settings is best to use?
              I've always had this doubt

              I still don't understand why pfsense detects 24 CPUs? Could it be a widget error?
              Actually it should be 16 CPUs

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              pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
              CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
              n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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              • fireodoF
                fireodo @Unoptanio
                last edited by fireodo

                @Unoptanio said in I7-13700 Thermal Sensors widget:

                For my configuration which of these two settings is best to use?
                I've always had this doubt

                The first one (AES-NI CPU-based Acceleration)
                (the second one in your highlight needs a extra electronic component that handles Crypto)

                I still don't understand why pfsense detects 24 CPUs? Could it be a widget error?

                Do you have Hyperthreading enabled in BIOS?

                Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                • UnoptanioU
                  Unoptanio @fireodo
                  last edited by

                  @fireodo

                  hyperthreading should be active, I don't remember having it disabled, I'll check

                  pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                  CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                  n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                  • fireodoF
                    fireodo @Unoptanio
                    last edited by fireodo

                    @Unoptanio said in I7-13700 Thermal Sensors widget:

                    hyperthreading should be active, I don't remember having it disabled, I'll check

                    You should disable it (its quiet useless on a firewall). Then it should be only 16 CPUs.

                    Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                    SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                    pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                    Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Half of the cores (the performance cores preseumbly) support hyperthreading so it appears as 8+8 performance cores and 8 efficient cores. 24 cores total.

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                      • UnoptanioU
                        Unoptanio @fireodo
                        last edited by

                        @fireodo

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                        Okay. I confirm.
                        As you said, by deactivating hyperthreading in the BIOS, the cores detected by the widget are now 16

                        What do you recommend?
                        Do I leave hyperthreading on or off?

                        pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                        CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                        n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          With a CPU that powerful I doubt you'll see any difference! 😉

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                          • fireodoF
                            fireodo @Unoptanio
                            last edited by fireodo

                            @Unoptanio said in I7-13700 Thermal Sensors widget:

                            What do you recommend?
                            Do I leave hyperthreading on or off?

                            The general consensus is to leave it off - a Firewall takes no profit from Hyperthreading.
                            And as Steven said, the CPU is in your system for sure not the bottleneck ;-)

                            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                            pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                            Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                            • UnoptanioU
                              Unoptanio @fireodo
                              last edited by Unoptanio

                              @fireodo

                              OK

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                              The CPU temperature detected inside the BIOS (32°C) is a little higher than that detected by the pfsense widget

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                              pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                              CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                              n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                              • fireodoF
                                fireodo @Unoptanio
                                last edited by

                                @Unoptanio

                                Its a big Machine 👍

                                Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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