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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Hmm, interesting. Windows is often better at using the CPU power saving features. I guess not the case here.

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        tman222
        last edited by

        Just to add another data point here, one system I run pfSense on has an Intel i3-10100 CPU (65W TDP, like the OP's CPU), which shows similar temps when lightly loaded (approx. upper 20's degrees C).

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        • UnoptanioU
          Unoptanio @tman222
          last edited by Unoptanio

          @tman222
          Hello,

          the only way to try to make the cpu work a little harder was to use an openvpn connection. I saw that the maximum is 3%. Probably with multiple simultaneous openvpn connections the percentage of CPU load increases further. I had read that if you use many simultaneous OpenVPN connections you need to choose more powerful CPUs, for this reason I put an Intel I7-13700 (it is still oversized).

          Do you know if there is a stress test inside pfsense to test the system?

          Before installing pfsense on this new machine I installed Windows 11 and did stress tests with AIDA64 to see if it was stable. I also updated the motherboard firmware to the latest version.

          My motherboard is:
          https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/IMB-X1314
          Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314 Micro ATX Motherboard with 32Gb Ram ECC Unbuffered
          with n.3 integrated Intel-i225 LM and n.1 card Intel I350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN PCi Ex 2.0 4x

          5ef18d4b-3f6e-4602-9ab9-fc21517fd06a-image.png

          7c3fd80c-9575-442c-9ed1-8dce210e2b2d-image.png

          My rack case 2U is this:
          https://www.multicase.de/en/products/17/ipcc236.html
          ba306740-f7b3-430e-8060-09881f8ebb4c-image.png

          My CPU Cooler for case 2U: Q5 Dynatron MAXIMUM POWER 185 W
          https://www.dynatron.co/product-page/q5
          887859f6-a9c4-407d-a2d1-59aa7d9f4859-image.png

          N.2 Samsung 870 EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB in Raid1 ZFS

          78146279-3855-4cc5-91e2-ddb73276ba16-image.png
          233de6aa-24c7-4d1e-a8e8-f9b4f9530955-image.png

          Standard Power supply: Asus ROG STRIX 750W Gold (16-pin cable)
          https://rog.asus.com/power-supply-units/rog-strix/rog-strix-750g/

          9ebcb6cc-aa32-4e09-9c13-9c75a9d35855-image.png
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          pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
          CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
          n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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          • UnoptanioU
            Unoptanio @stephenw10
            last edited by Unoptanio

            @stephenw10

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            For my configuration which of these two settings is best to use?
            I've always had this doubt

            I still don't understand why pfsense detects 24 CPUs? Could it be a widget error?
            Actually it should be 16 CPUs

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            pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
            CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
            n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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            • fireodoF
              fireodo @Unoptanio
              last edited by fireodo

              @Unoptanio said in I7-13700 Thermal Sensors widget:

              For my configuration which of these two settings is best to use?
              I've always had this doubt

              The first one (AES-NI CPU-based Acceleration)
              (the second one in your highlight needs a extra electronic component that handles Crypto)

              I still don't understand why pfsense detects 24 CPUs? Could it be a widget error?

              Do you have Hyperthreading enabled in BIOS?

              Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
              SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
              pfsense 2.8.0 CE
              Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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              • UnoptanioU
                Unoptanio @fireodo
                last edited by

                @fireodo

                hyperthreading should be active, I don't remember having it disabled, I'll check

                pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                • fireodoF
                  fireodo @Unoptanio
                  last edited by fireodo

                  @Unoptanio said in I7-13700 Thermal Sensors widget:

                  hyperthreading should be active, I don't remember having it disabled, I'll check

                  You should disable it (its quiet useless on a firewall). Then it should be only 16 CPUs.

                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                  pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                  Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Half of the cores (the performance cores preseumbly) support hyperthreading so it appears as 8+8 performance cores and 8 efficient cores. 24 cores total.

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                    • UnoptanioU
                      Unoptanio @fireodo
                      last edited by

                      @fireodo

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                      Okay. I confirm.
                      As you said, by deactivating hyperthreading in the BIOS, the cores detected by the widget are now 16

                      What do you recommend?
                      Do I leave hyperthreading on or off?

                      pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                      CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                      n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        With a CPU that powerful I doubt you'll see any difference! 😉

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                        • fireodoF
                          fireodo @Unoptanio
                          last edited by fireodo

                          @Unoptanio said in I7-13700 Thermal Sensors widget:

                          What do you recommend?
                          Do I leave hyperthreading on or off?

                          The general consensus is to leave it off - a Firewall takes no profit from Hyperthreading.
                          And as Steven said, the CPU is in your system for sure not the bottleneck ;-)

                          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                          pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                          Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                          • UnoptanioU
                            Unoptanio @fireodo
                            last edited by Unoptanio

                            @fireodo

                            OK

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                            The CPU temperature detected inside the BIOS (32°C) is a little higher than that detected by the pfsense widget

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                            pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                            CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                            n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                            • fireodoF
                              fireodo @Unoptanio
                              last edited by

                              @Unoptanio

                              Its a big Machine 👍

                              Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                              SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                              pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                              Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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