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    ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60

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    • Bob.DigB
      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vader9000
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      @vader9000 said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

      In my country all isp are the same thing for residential clients and there is no way they are going to change that.

      What country, what ISP?

      As far as I understand the way it works is we request a /56 or /60 in the WAN and split it /64 or /60 but because the ISP doesn’t allow anything above /64

      You don't split to /60, only to /64.

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      • vader9000V
        vader9000 @Bob.Dig
        last edited by

        @Bob-Dig Thank you for replying.

        I know you don't split /64 because it start to break stuff (I read some post where they elaborate how it can be dome but it causes many other problems)

        my question is because i can have 256 times /64 i just need 8 for my vlans / vpns etc is there some way i can do this??

        I can connect 4 routers to my isp router and request a /64 DP and then assign 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX1:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa For 1 Router + 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX2:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa For 2 Router and so on.

        they dont let us have nothing above /64 but we can ha as many /64 as we want ..... until 256 that is.

        Country Portugal
        ISP Vodafone
        But the Most Important thing is : Residential Contract Not Corporate/Business

        Thanks

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        • Bob.DigB
          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vader9000
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          @vader9000 said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

          I can get ipv6 on my LAN and everything works fine ir passes all the test sites all green

          You can try, it depends on your Modem/Router and ISP and so on. So what have you done so far to your pfSense config that it is working for your pfSense LAN?

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          • vader9000V
            vader9000 @Bob.Dig
            last edited by vader9000

            @Bob-Dig Thank you for replying.

            Yes on the lan side everything is working fine and it passes all the ipv6 test sites.
            the clients connected to the lan get the right ips ipv4 and ipv6 but as soon as i try to set up another interface it doesn't work or it works on the new interface and stops working on the LAN

            so on the LAN i get a 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX1:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa and clients get 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX1:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaa1 & 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX1:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaa2 & 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX1:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaa3 which is how it shoud be.

            and i still can connect 3 routers to the isp router and duplicate the results with the diferen /64 prefix 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX2:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa & 2001:XXXX:XXXX:XXX3:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa:aaaa

            IN The LAN
            I HAve Tried with TRACK Interface WAN with and without DHCP6 and depending when i try with or without RA unmanaged / Assisted / managed no matter what i try wen i set any other interface this stops working or the other doesnt work

            my question is : can i make the isp router detect my internal interfaces like its detecting the router i connect directly to the other isp router ports?

            thanks

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            • vader9000V
              vader9000 @Bob.Dig
              last edited by

              @Bob-Dig
              Don know if helps or not but ..

              Router IS - HUAWEI OptiXstar HG8247X6-8N

              NO BRIDGE MODE is available for residential contacts and NO STATIC IP

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              • Bob.DigB
                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vader9000
                last edited by

                @vader9000 said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

                IN The LAN
                I HAve Tried with TRACK Interface WAN with and without DHCP6 and depending when i try with or without RA unmanaged / Assisted / managed

                What is the "DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation size" in your WAN-settings?

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                • vader9000V
                  vader9000 @Bob.Dig
                  last edited by

                  @Bob-Dig

                  The only one it works is /64
                  wen i go /63 / 62 /60 /56 it doesn't work

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                  • Bob.DigB
                    Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vader9000
                    last edited by

                    @vader9000 said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

                    The only one it works is /64
                    wen i go /63 / 62 /60 /56 it doesn't work

                    Then your out of luck I think. 😖

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                    • vader9000V
                      vader9000 @Bob.Dig
                      last edited by

                      @Bob-Dig

                      Thank You

                      I was hoping that maybe could be possible to make the requests coming from the other interfaces look like different devices ... maybe vlans on the wan side ... i don't know that's beyond my abilities.

                      Thanks just the same
                      FC

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                      • Bob.DigB
                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vader9000
                        last edited by

                        @vader9000 Now what you can do is trying NAT with NPt. This will work ok with outbound connections but only partially with unsolicited inbound connections.

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                        • vader9000V
                          vader9000 @Bob.Dig
                          last edited by

                          @Bob-Dig

                          Can you please explain how i can do that on the pfsense so i can give it a try.

                          thks

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                          • Bob.DigB
                            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vader9000
                            last edited by Bob.Dig

                            @vader9000 Check the docs.
                            You have to roll out ULAs on all other Interfaces but the LAN, which still gets the one /64 that is working for you.

                            One example:
                            Capture.PNG
                            You have to create these rules for every other interface than LAN and change the Source accordingly.

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                            • vader9000V
                              vader9000 @Bob.Dig
                              last edited by

                              @Bob-Dig

                              Thank You Im Going to Try it

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                              • vader9000V
                                vader9000 @Bob.Dig
                                last edited by

                                @Bob-Dig

                                On The Interface Lets call it TEST(igb1.5) VLAN tag 5 i Set the interface as STATIC IPV6?
                                If so wen the ISP changes the ips for the router this will stop working correct?

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                                • Bob.DigB
                                  Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @vader9000
                                  last edited by Bob.Dig

                                  @vader9000 said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

                                  On The Interface Lets call it TEST(igb1.5) VLAN tag 5 i Set the interface as STATIC IPV6?

                                  Yes and you give it an ULA with /64 like shown above.

                                  If so wen the ISP changes the ips for the router this will stop working correct?

                                  No, LAN is still handled via Track Interface so in general it should work.

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                                  • JKnottJ
                                    JKnott @Bob.Dig
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                                    @Bob-Dig said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

                                    You have to roll out ULAs on all other Interfaces but the LAN, which still gets the one /64 that is working for you.

                                    Actually, you can add ULA to the LAN, along with GUA. In fact, I don't think ULA is allowed to route to GUA addresses.

                                    Using Unique Local Addresses

                                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                    • vader9000V
                                      vader9000 @Bob.Dig
                                      last edited by

                                      @Bob-Dig

                                      Hello,

                                      Thank you for the help, I managed to get it working on my test box so I will be setting up my live box.

                                      Best regards,
                                      FC

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                                      • Bob.DigB
                                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @JKnott
                                        last edited by Bob.Dig

                                        @JKnott said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

                                        Actually, you can add ULA to the LAN, along with GUA.

                                        True but at least with Track Interface you need a patch for pfsense and this patch is only working partially.

                                        In fact, I don't think ULA is allowed to route to GUA addresses.

                                        Someone has to test this. 😉 I ditched my ULAs because of the mentioned problems, so it won't be me.

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                                        • JKnottJ
                                          JKnott @Bob.Dig
                                          last edited by

                                          @Bob-Dig said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

                                          Someone has to test this.

                                          RFC 6724 describes priority when you have multiple addresses to choose from, but doesn't appear to get into the GUA <> ULA situation. However, I seem to recall reading elsewhere that it wasn't allowed. Can't say for certain though.

                                          Anyway, I have both GUA and ULA on my subnets.

                                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @Bob.Dig
                                            last edited by

                                            @Bob-Dig said in ISP Delegates /64 Multiple Times But No /56 or /60:

                                            Someone has to test this.

                                            I just did and I can reach ULA from GUA. I tested from my VPN, which only has GUA to my desktop computer and it's ULA address.

                                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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