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How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 3:00 PM

    Those logs show the first thing logged is an alarm from the gateway monitoring. So clearly at that time it was running the gateway monitor.

    From what we can see there the NIC did not lose link. The WAN just started dropping packets. Unless there were entries before that showing it did lose link?

    So it could simply be that the WAN is lossy under load and the gateway monitoring values should be adjusted to match that so alarms are not triggered. Or just disabled.

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      lazyt @stephenw10
      last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 5:10 PM

      @stephenw10

      @stephenw10 said in How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?:

      the WAN is lossy under load

      a. I didn't notice any load (CPU or mem)
      b. what would cause both WAN's to drop at exactly the same time?!

      @stephenw10 said in How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?:

      gateway monitoring values should be adjusted

      I'm happy to try - what would you suggest?

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 5:22 PM

        The WANs share the same NIC? Using VLANs? Same ISP? Something upstream maybe?

        Try setting packet loss at 50%. Anything hitting that is almost certainly broken.

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          lazyt @stephenw10
          last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 9:44 AM

          @stephenw10 said in How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?:

          Try setting packet loss at 50%. Anything hitting that is almost certainly broken.

          I did, same intermittent dropouts

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 1:34 PM

            OK and still no link losses logged? Just gateway alarms?

            What about the interface stats in Status > Interfaces? Does it show errors, dropped packets? How about in the output of netstat -i directly?

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              lazyt @stephenw10
              last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 2:10 PM

              @stephenw10

              MTU 1492 
              In/out packets 27805509/14754894 (27.99 GiB/6.21 GiB) 
              In/out packets (pass) 27805509/14754894 (27.99 GiB/6.21 GiB) 
              In/out packets (block) 5606/0 (222 KiB/0 B) 
              In/out errors 0/0 
              Collisions 0 
              

              netstat -i

              Ierrs/Idrop/Oerrs are all 0 or -

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 2:16 PM

                On the parent NIC? Both?

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                  lazyt @stephenw10
                  last edited by Mar 17, 2024, 7:38 AM

                  @stephenw10 here is a more detailed look:

                  login-to-view

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Mar 17, 2024, 3:39 PM

                    No errors or drops on anything then. Which NICs are the PPPoE WANs using?

                    Could just be something upstream like a bad modem.

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                      lazyt @stephenw10
                      last edited by Mar 18, 2024, 8:28 AM

                      @stephenw10 icg1 & icg2. Yeah, it could be what are the chances they are both problematic and both drop at the same exact time?

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by Mar 18, 2024, 12:43 PM

                        Same ISP?

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                          lazyt @stephenw10
                          last edited by Mar 18, 2024, 1:04 PM

                          @stephenw10 different ISP, different modem make, and different tech (adsl vs fiber)

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Mar 18, 2024, 1:29 PM

                            Hmm, very unlikely then. So neither NIC ever loses link. The PPPoE sessions do not get disconnected. The PPPoE connections simply stop passing traffic.

                            Do you see it logging missing LCP echos in the ppp log when this happens? It has to drop 5 before the ppp link is restarted and that doesn't appear to be happening but if the NICs stop passing traffic it would drop some LCP packets.

                            Do you have access to the modems on a private IP at all? You could assign the parent interfaces with those IPs as gateway and they would then be monitored separately to the PPP link.

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                              lazyt @stephenw10
                              last edited by Mar 18, 2024, 2:11 PM

                              @stephenw10 said in How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?:

                              Do you see it logging missing LCP echos in the ppp log when this happens

                              No. In 10 days of PPP logs, I only see a single "LCP: no reply to 1 echo request"

                              Do you have access to the modems on a private IP at all

                              no. One modem doesn't have a web interface afaik, and the other is being used in bridge mode (so the router doesnt do any tcp/ip stuff with it, as I understand)

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @lazyt
                                last edited by Mar 18, 2024, 2:41 PM

                                @lazyt said in How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?:

                                No. In 10 days of PPP logs, I only see a single "LCP: no reply to 1 echo request"

                                Hmm, and the ppp sessions remain up on both WANs?

                                And I assume you saw multiple WAN alarms during that time?

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                                  lazyt @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Mar 19, 2024, 6:42 AM

                                  @stephenw10

                                  @stephenw10 said in How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?:

                                  And I assume you saw multiple WAN alarms during that time?

                                  sure, tons

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @stephenw10
                                    last edited by Mar 19, 2024, 12:28 PM

                                    @stephenw10 said in How To Disable/Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)?:

                                    Hmm, and the ppp sessions remain up on both WANs?

                                    Importantly that? ^ The uptime on both WANs shows they never disconnected?

                                    If that's the case this looks like something completely different. Like maybe it lost routing. Or something hung whilst reloading the filter maybe. I would expect to see something logged in either case though.

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                                      lazyt @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Mar 21, 2024, 7:03 AM

                                      @stephenw10 thank you so much for your help! I'm nearing the end of my rope with these disconnects (as are my Zoom colleagues), and I think I'll just try a new box. Thanks so much!!

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                                        Maff
                                        last edited by Mar 26, 2024, 9:22 AM

                                        Hi sorry for asking for this to be simplified but apparently virgin media has broken there 2.5gig port with the latest firmware for the hub5 the thread on the forums say it is due to eee and would like to test this but so far can’t find out how to get info if it is enabled or not, am using an intel x710 card

                                        Currently on pfsense 23.09-1

                                        Can someone list the commands needed to get info about that state of eee my card is listed as ixl0 and ixl1, 0 is the wan port

                                        Thread for virgin media https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Tech-Chatter/Hub-5-Firmware-Upgrade/td-p/5480079/page/2

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Mar 26, 2024, 1:33 PM

                                          On ixl it is set by:

                                          [24.03-BETA][admin@7100.stevew.lan]/root: sysctl -d dev.ixl.0.eee.enable
                                          dev.ixl.0.eee.enable: Enable Energy Efficient Ethernet (EEE)
                                          [24.03-BETA][admin@7100.stevew.lan]/root: sysctl dev.ixl.0.eee.enable
                                          dev.ixl.0.eee.enable: 0
                                          

                                          You can also check to see if it's sending or receiving LPI symbols:

                                          [24.03-BETA][admin@7100.stevew.lan]/root: sysctl dev.ixl.0.eee
                                          dev.ixl.0.eee.rx_lpi_count: 0
                                          dev.ixl.0.eee.tx_lpi_count: 0
                                          dev.ixl.0.eee.rx_lpi_status: 0
                                          dev.ixl.0.eee.tx_lpi_status: 0
                                          dev.ixl.0.eee.enable: 0
                                          

                                          Steve

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