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    • bmeeksB
      bmeeks
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      You can try switching the runmode to workers on the INTERFACE SETTINGS tab in Suricata. Restart Suricata after making that change.

      If that does not increase performance to where you want it, then you will just have to be content with using Legacy Blocking Mode and abandon Inline IPS Mode. There is really nothing else you can do.

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        Antibiotic @bmeeks
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        @bmeeks
        runmode to workers set from beginning , so only option for legacy mode as understood ((((

        pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
        CPU: Intel N100
        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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          Antibiotic @bmeeks
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          @bmeeks
          Should I'm remove from sysctl netmap native mode option if suricata set to legacy mode or ntopng still can use this? I will try asking FreeBSD forum , could some tip give me regarding tuning netmap in native mode.

          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
          CPU: Intel N100
          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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            bmeeks @Antibiotic
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            @Antibiotic said in Intel NIC I-226V:

            @bmeeks
            Should I'm remove from sysctl netmap native mode option if suricata set to legacy mode or ntopng still can use this? I will try asking FreeBSD forum , could some tip give me regarding tuning netmap in native mode.

            ntopng does not use netmap at all in FreeBSD.

            Suricata does not use netmap when operating in Legacy Blocking Mode. It uses libpcap instead. And when using netmap with Inline IPS Mode, Suricata will only allow you to select Inline mode if your NIC supports native operation. The GUI code will not allow you to choose netmap operation for a network adapter that requires emulated mode. Therefore, setting emulated mode or native mode is worthless in pfSense when configuring for Suricata.

            Remove any customization you did with netmap tunables. They are not necessary and may actually do more harm than good in your situation.

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              Antibiotic @bmeeks
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              @bmeeks Ok thank's

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              CPU: Intel N100
              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
              RAM : 16 GB DDR5
              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                Antibiotic @Antibiotic
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                @Antibiotic Like understood from this conversation my NIC ( INTEL I-226V) have a problem with driver of netmap in FreeBSD . Is it correct?

                pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                CPU: Intel N100
                NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                  Antibiotic @Antibiotic
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                  @Antibiotic The last question , can than to set Hardware Checksum Offloading ON back if suricata use legacy mode?

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                  NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                  RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                  Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                    bmeeks @Antibiotic
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                    @Antibiotic said in Intel NIC I-226V:

                    @Antibiotic Like understood from this conversation my NIC ( INTEL I-226V) have a problem with driver of netmap in FreeBSD . Is it correct?

                    Perhaps. Hard to say without knowing the exact firmware revision and then doing research on that firmware against the current driver code in FreeBSD. Most all NICs these days in FreeBSD utilize the iflib abstraction layer.

                    I'm not a NIC hardware expert.

                    I takes a lot of processing power to get line rate inline IPS performance with a large rule set. You want an RSS-enabled kernel, a server class multi-queue NIC, and a very fast and high core count CPU. Plenty of Suricata users out there are getting 3 to 4 Gigabit/sec IPS performance, but they have server class hardware doing that without any other package running on the box. And these are also usually Linux-based firewalls.

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                      bmeeks @Antibiotic
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                      @Antibiotic said in Intel NIC I-226V:

                      @Antibiotic The last question , can than to set Hardware Checksum Offloading ON back if suricata use legacy mode?

                      No!! That mode will confuse the detection engine. When using IDS/IPS, leave all hardware offloading features disabled.

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                        Antibiotic @bmeeks
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                        @bmeeks
                        Oh ok, out from home users in-line mode, i guess)))

                        pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                        CPU: Intel N100
                        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                        Brgds, Archi

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Well the fact you're not seeing the CPU cores pegged at 100% suggests there might be more available.

                          The testing you have done points towards igc/netmap but I'd want to see something more positive before making any conclusions. It wouldn't be the first time something seemingly unrelated came into play.

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                            bmeeks @Antibiotic
                            last edited by bmeeks

                            @Antibiotic said in Intel NIC I-226V:

                            @bmeeks
                            Oh ok, out from home users in-line mode, i guess)))

                            To be perfectly honest, Suricata has very limited usefulness at best in a home network. I am the creator of the package for pfSense, and I don't run it in my home network. I have not run an IDS/IPS in my home network for the last several years. And even when I did, it was only to collect some events in logs to aid me in debugging the package code or adding new features.

                            Suricata cannot see into encrypted traffic, and 90% or more of typical network traffic now is encrypted (HTTPS, SMTPS, POP3S, IMAPS, DoT, DoH, TLS, etc.). Suricata is totally blind to the payloads of these encrypted packets.

                            Much better security can be had by simply keeping internal hosts updated with the latest security hotfixes and running a good antivirus client on them along with just being careful what you click on as a user.

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                              Antibiotic @bmeeks
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                              @bmeeks I think also to uninstall of suricata at home and set Hardware Checksum Offloading ON back for traffic shaping!

                              pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                              CPU: Intel N100
                              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                              RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                You don't need checksum off loading to run traffic shaping.

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                                  Antibiotic @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 Do you mean not required, but can still keep ON or mandatory to keep OFF for better result?

                                  pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                  CPU: Intel N100
                                  NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                  RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                  Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                                    Antibiotic @Antibiotic
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                                    @Antibiotic Because have tested now with all 3 options on (Hardware Checksum Offloading, Hardware TCP Segmentation Offloading, Hardware Large Receive Offloading) AND RESULT IS A+ for bufferbloat.

                                    pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                    CPU: Intel N100
                                    NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                    RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                    Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10

                                      I'm saying that hardware off-loading should make no difference to traffic shaping or buffer bloat.

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                                        Antibiotic @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 Ah well understood)))

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                                        CPU: Intel N100
                                        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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                                          Antibiotic @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 What is more effective ALTQ Scheduler Types or Limiters? Like understood from pfesense docs, if NIC support ALTQ better use this insteed of limiters. But my NIC support ALTQ and anyway best result with limiters have?

                                          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                          CPU: Intel N100
                                          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                                          Brgds, Archi

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                                            Antibiotic @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10 I', suspecting that this tests for bufferbloat online , like a marketing trick. If you use FQ-Codel , result is good. But lets say traffic shaping with ALTQ scheduler result is worse.

                                            pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                            CPU: Intel N100
                                            NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                            RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                            Disk: 128 GB NVMe
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