Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    DNS and ISP provider

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved DHCP and DNS
    44 Posts 5 Posters 2.9k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • A
      Antibiotic @viragomann
      last edited by

      @viragomann Did

      5f70f60b-c591-403d-ad4b-3b55a17434d9-image.png

      bfdf1e29-a641-4767-b2dc-f187f46b5e45-image.png

      But only work than , when this rules disable:

      9baaa46f-0f88-41ff-99d7-b50c5725434e-image.png

      WHY?

      pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
      CPU: Intel N100
      NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
      RAM : 16 GB DDR5
      Disk: 128 GB NVMe
      Brgds, Archi

      T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • A
        Antibiotic @johnpoz
        last edited by

        @johnpoz OK, than what to do?

        pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
        CPU: Intel N100
        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
        Brgds, Archi

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • A
          Antibiotic @johnpoz
          last edited by

          @johnpoz said in DNS and ISP provider:

          there is a guide on how to do it on pfsense

          Could you please give a link? Because did not found any here

          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
          CPU: Intel N100
          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
          Brgds, Archi

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • T
            The Party of Hell No @Antibiotic
            last edited by

            @Antibiotic
            Outgoing Network Interfaces - you still have the WAN highlighted. I don't know if you have the mullvad Interface highlighted. Only the VPN interfaces should be highlighted. Sorry I was calling them gateways should have been using the corrrect terminology - interfaces.

            A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • A
              Antibiotic @The Party of Hell No
              last edited by

              @The-Party-of-Hell-No Yea but me using vpn only for one interface also using other interface without vpn. But anyway after did forwarding to mullvad dns in general setting and set tls over dns. Outgoing IN DNS RESOLVER set to only local Inernet start working.

              pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
              CPU: Intel N100
              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
              RAM : 16 GB DDR5
              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
              Brgds, Archi

              T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • T
                The Party of Hell No @Antibiotic
                last edited by The Party of Hell No

                @Antibiotic
                You are making progress - I have to post my own difficulties with DNS so I can try and resolve my own thinking.

                There are ways to make multiple openvpn interfaces and I am sure Mullvad allows this. If it is wireguard you can do that also - just not as easy.

                When I made multiple openvpn interfaces I copied the first interface and just changed the "Server Host or Address" to another server provided by the vpn service and save.

                Another thing if you want to use both mullvad DNS servers - in case one goes down - just add it as another DNS server. The only time you run into problems if you try to send it out the same gateway. if you do not specify a gateway it will allow you to add the second.

                Not sure if this is correct - I wait to be corrected, By only selecting the pfsense dns server 127.0.0.1 if it cannot resolve there is no higher DNS server to refer to.

                A 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • A
                  Antibiotic @viragomann
                  last edited by

                  @viragomann said in DNS and ISP provider:

                  Anyway, I saw a thread here, where an ISP blocked the DNS root servers

                  Oh, this is answer for blocking, i think

                  pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                  CPU: Intel N100
                  NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                  RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                  Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                  Brgds, Archi

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • A
                    Antibiotic @The Party of Hell No
                    last edited by Antibiotic

                    @The-Party-of-Hell-No said in DNS and ISP provider:

                    There are ways to make multiple openvpn interfaces

                    What the reason? Like a back up server in case main is felt down? But in this case you need all time to make new route to this gateway again?

                    2c02e602-3321-46dc-9fc6-d3155d275657-image.png

                    4807cce0-53d6-453b-993a-3dcf2f880be4-image.png

                    pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                    CPU: Intel N100
                    NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                    RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                    Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                    Brgds, Archi

                    johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Antibiotic
                      last edited by

                      @Antibiotic yeah you can create failover, vpn is just another wan interface as far as pfsense is concerned. So yeah if you loose connectivity to a specific pop you could use another one you have setup.

                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/multiwan/load-balance-and-failover.html

                      An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                      If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                      Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                      SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                      A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • A
                        Antibiotic @The Party of Hell No
                        last edited by

                        @The-Party-of-Hell-No said in DNS and ISP provider:

                        Another thing if you want to use both mullvad DNS servers - in case one goes down - just add it as another DNS server

                        They are use anycast, only one is ok. If he is going down the next one close to your location will use!

                        pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                        CPU: Intel N100
                        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                        Brgds, Archi

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • A
                          Antibiotic @johnpoz
                          last edited by Antibiotic

                          @johnpoz So, I have 3 Nic's and two of them use VPN interface and one use WAN interface. This setting will correct?

                          ea2529c5-a911-4e44-bde0-7e26cdb2194a-image.png

                          or How to setup only failover for VPN only inetfaces?
                          adjust WAN to never? But in this case will WAN interface even use for non VPN nic?

                          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                          CPU: Intel N100
                          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                          Brgds, Archi

                          johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Antibiotic
                            last edited by

                            @Antibiotic of the top of my head no that wouldn't be right.. If your going to policy route out some vpn connection(s) those would be your gateway group you setup.. Your normal wan would not be in that group.

                            An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                            If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                            Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                            SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                            A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • A
                              Antibiotic @johnpoz
                              last edited by Antibiotic

                              @johnpoz Misunderstanding, WAN should not appear in group or should set to never?In case set up failover for OpenVPN and second question this spare VPN gateway will route auto, because me set NAT gateway and LAN gateway to first VPN gateway?

                              pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                              CPU: Intel N100
                              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                              RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                              Brgds, Archi

                              T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • T
                                The Party of Hell No @Antibiotic
                                last edited by

                                @Antibiotic
                                The Wan can be used, however the purpose of the VPN Gateways is to see all traffic is routed out the vpn tunnels. So if this is your intent the WAN_DHCP should be never. Adjust the two VPN's to Tier 1 and Tier 2.

                                When the Gateway Group is created, return to the LAN rules page, go to the bottom to the default allow to any rule. Using the edit button open it up, scroll down and click on the advanced options and scroll down to Gateway, it probably says WAN_DHCP click on the down arrow and select the Gateways Group you created and save. This routes the LAN out the Gateways Group rather than the WAN.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • GertjanG
                                  Gertjan @Antibiotic
                                  last edited by

                                  @Antibiotic said in DNS and ISP provider:

                                  to be in Europe

                                  Can you be more precise ?
                                  In Europe, there are places where 'entities' intercept DNS. I think about schools, prisons, and some hotel owners using pfSense 😊
                                  All the other can not exist, as no one would chose them as an ISP.
                                  And a VPN ISP is yet another ISP like supplier.

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

                                  A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • A
                                    Antibiotic @Gertjan
                                    last edited by

                                    @Gertjan In Europe. it mean me like a simple user at home whom censuring simple city ISP according simple stupid goverment

                                    pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                    CPU: Intel N100
                                    NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                    RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                    Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                                    Brgds, Archi

                                    GertjanG 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • GertjanG
                                      Gertjan @Antibiotic
                                      last edited by

                                      @Antibiotic

                                      If your ISP is intercepting / doing things with your DNS traffic, then you have a good reason to use a VPN, or DNS Forward over TLS.

                                      But, because it's Europe, I wouldn't be a client of this ISP in the first place.

                                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

                                      A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • A
                                        Antibiotic @Gertjan
                                        last edited by

                                        @Gertjan MullvadVPN fine for privacy, I do not like VPN whom belong to KAPE alienses, like ExpressVPN for example

                                        pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                        CPU: Intel N100
                                        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                                        Brgds, Archi

                                        T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • T
                                          The Party of Hell No @Antibiotic
                                          last edited by

                                          @Antibiotic
                                          Ignorant American - what is "KAPE alienses?"

                                          A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • A
                                            Antibiotic @The Party of Hell No
                                            last edited by Antibiotic

                                            @The-Party-of-Hell-No
                                            Formerly know as Crossrider

                                            the notorious creator of some pernicious data-huffing ad-ware, Crossrider. The UK-based company was cofounded by an ex-Israeli surveillance agent and a billionaire previously convicted of insider trading who was later named in the Panama Papers. It produced software which previously allowed third-party developers to hijack users' browsers via malware injection, redirect traffic to advertisers and slurp up private data.

                                            You can check : https://www.kape.com/
                                            What vpn belong to this

                                            Now, they are promote yourself as Privacy Is Our Priority)))) Funny
                                            Ex company which developed malware now doing VPN services)))

                                            pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                            CPU: Intel N100
                                            NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                            RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                            Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                                            Brgds, Archi

                                            T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.