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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Right but we just use ping as a test because it will usually be allowed.

      So what error does it return?

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        BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 The order has timed out.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          OK, run the ping from a host on LAN then check the state table. Filter by the target IP address and make sure you see the states present.

          You should see one state on LAN and one on OpenVPN.

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            BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 Done, no ping

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              So no states created on any interface?

              Was the ping running while you checked the states? The states will close quickly after the ping stops, like maybe 30s.

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                BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Exactly, Totally unavailable LAN -> VPN

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Hmm, then check the firewall logs. Is that blocked on LAN?

                  If not check the routing table on the LAN client running the ping. Is it somehow trying to ping directly? Like maybe is still has a VPN connection active and isn't even trying to use the LAN?

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                    BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 Nothing appears in the logs when I try to ping.
                    It's not possible that this is something that abnormal, I don't even make settings other than what comes by default in PFSENSE

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      If the LAN host is pinging something in the 50.50.50.X subnet and it is using pfSense as it's default gateway that traffic will arrive at the LAN interface. So it will either be blocked or passed and open a state.

                      Try running a packet capture on the LAN filtered by the target IP (50.50.50.X) and then running the ping from the LAN host. If those pings don't arrive at the LAN then there is some routing issue on the LAN host.

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                        BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10

                        CONFIG FOR LOGS:
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                        LOGS:

                        10:50:20.318469 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 132
10:50:20.318544 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 750
10:50:20.318586 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 750
10:50:20.318657 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 750
10:50:20.318717 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 749
10:50:20.318793 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 766
10:50:20.320465 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 72
10:50:20.323776 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 51
10:50:20.324112 IP 50.50.50.2.52351 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 1
10:50:20.324316 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.52351: tcp 0
10:50:20.341619 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 73
10:50:20.343805 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 48
10:50:20.347624 IP 50.50.50.2.54499 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 92
10:50:20.347697 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 80
10:50:20.347853 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 767
10:50:20.347928 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 767
10:50:20.347929 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 128
10:50:20.354125 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.355054 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.356012 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.356996 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.357897 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.358843 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.359862 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.360770 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.361752 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.362722 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.363615 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1120
10:50:20.363803 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 48
10:50:20.364059 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 104
10:50:20.364600 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1118
10:50:20.365594 IP 50.50.50.2.50020 > 192.168.140.90.50025: UDP, length 1134
10:50:20.366410 IP 50.50.50.2.50020 > 192.168.140.90.50025: UDP, length 1134
10:50:20.366494 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 71
10:50:20.374943 IP 50.50.50.2.54499 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 136
10:50:20.375246 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 156
10:50:20.380252 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 75
10:50:20.380740 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.380810 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.380871 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.380941 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.381000 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.381071 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.381131 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.381201 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.381260 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 742
10:50:20.381336 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 736
10:50:20.381399 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 758
10:50:20.383143 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 51
10:50:20.398530 IP 50.50.50.2.53657 > 192.168.140.3.53: UDP, length 50
10:50:20.400254 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 61
10:50:20.402203 IP 50.50.50.2.50020 > 192.168.140.90.50025: UDP, length 80
10:50:20.402585 IP 50.50.50.2.54499 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 108
10:50:20.402791 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 100
10:50:20.403809 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 48
10:50:20.415028 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 743
10:50:20.415104 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 743
10:50:20.419528 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.420497 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.421476 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.422432 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.423124 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 48
10:50:20.423410 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.424435 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.425411 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.426391 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.427365 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.428353 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.429330 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.429831 IP 50.50.50.2.54499 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 276
10:50:20.430068 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 84
10:50:20.430548 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.431225 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.432285 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.433288 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1162
10:50:20.434268 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1158
10:50:20.434278 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 76
10:50:20.440307 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 64
10:50:20.443141 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 771
10:50:20.443173 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443244 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443306 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443379 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443439 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443512 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443571 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443644 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 763
10:50:20.443710 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 757
10:50:20.443781 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 779
10:50:20.443785 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 51
10:50:20.457078 IP 50.50.50.2.54499 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 117
10:50:20.457394 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 200
10:50:20.460799 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 60
10:50:20.463234 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 48
10:50:20.477045 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 788
10:50:20.477115 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 788
10:50:20.480347 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 62
10:50:20.483227 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 48
10:50:20.484522 IP 50.50.50.2.54499 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 260
10:50:20.484758 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 84
10:50:20.488096 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1058
10:50:20.489003 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1058
10:50:20.489890 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1058
10:50:20.490847 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1058
10:50:20.491749 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1058
10:50:20.492651 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1058
10:50:20.493522 IP 50.50.50.2.50054 > 192.168.140.90.50049: UDP, length 1058
10:50:20.500071 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 62
10:50:20.503213 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 51
10:50:20.504777 IP 192.168.140.90.50049 > 50.50.50.2.50054: UDP, length 188
10:50:20.507329 IP 50.50.50.2.50635 > 192.168.140.3.53: UDP, length 32
10:50:20.511759 IP 50.50.50.2.54499 > 192.168.140.3.445: tcp 117
10:50:20.511931 IP 192.168.140.3.445 > 50.50.50.2.54499: tcp 132
10:50:20.518403 IP 50.50.50.2.50020 > 192.168.140.90.50025: UDP, length 1132
10:50:20.519377 IP 50.50.50.2.50020 > 192.168.140.90.50025: UDP, length 1132
10:50:20.520360 IP 50.50.50.2.50020 > 192.168.140.90.50025: UDP, length 1132
10:50:20.521351 IP 50.50.50.2.50020 > 192.168.140.90.50025: UDP, length 1132
10:50:20.521359 IP 50.50.50.2.50010 > 192.168.140.90.50001: UDP, length 58
10:50:20.523636 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.523722 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.523808 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.523894 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.523980 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.524066 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.524151 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.524237 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.524322 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1003
10:50:20.524407 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 997
10:50:20.524502 IP 192.168.140.90.50025 > 50.50.50.2.50020: UDP, length 1019
10:50:20.524504 IP 192.168.140.90.50001 > 50.50.50.2.50010: UDP, length 48
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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          OK so no ICMP packets at all there. But those were all inside 0.2 seconds so maybe it wasn't running long enough?

                          What IP address on LAN were you pinging from?

                          What we can see there though is that OpenVPN clients are able to connect to hosts on the LAN and they are able to reply. And importantly that there is no NAT. The OpenVPN tunnel IPs appear directly on the LAN.

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                            BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 This test I showed you is from the packet capture of PFSENSE itself for the IP that my clientOPENVPN is getting 50.50.50.2

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              So you didn't try to ping from LAN host?

                              Repeat the capture but try to ping from a host on the LAN.

                              Pings from pfSense itself never go through the LAN interface to reach the VPN so would not appear in the pcap.

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                                BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 It's in Portuguese, but it causes 100% packet loss

                                55d6eeeb-c8ce-4628-a46a-6c5a8b146c4a-image.png

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Ok and what does the packet capture show on LAN whilst that is running?

                                  What IP address in the LAN are you pinging from?

                                  What is 50.50.50.2 there? Another client device?

                                  By the way 50.50.50.0/24 is a public subnet belonging to Frontier Communications. You should really use a private subnet for the tunnel.

                                  Steve

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                                    BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 But packet capture where? in pfsense? You told me to use ping elsewhere, I don't understand
                                    50.50.50.2 is another client device that
                                    50.50.50.0/24 But the tunnel already uses a private subnet, doesn't it?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      You are saying that you need to be able to connect to OpenVPN clients from hosts in the LAN subnet and it is not working.

                                      We are trying to find out why it's failing.

                                      So to test that we are trying send ping traffic from a host in the LAN to a VPN client and then looking to see where it goes.

                                      The first place it should hit is the pfSense LAN interface.

                                      So the test is to start a packet capture on the pfSense LAN interface. Then run the ping and make sure it arrives there.

                                      If it doesn't arrive then the issue is on the LAN host.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        50.50.50.0/24 is a public subnet that should not be used here. BUT that is not the cause of the problem. It only means you could not connect to that subnet if you ever had to which is very unlikely.

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                                          BRQ_michael @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 I pinged directly from my machine to an OPENVPN client and captured the packets from my PFSENSE LAN interface, with these settings:65047155-16ef-422c-ae2d-3f102cc0885d-image.png

                                          Try ping 50.50.50.2:7a46ea67-b807-4ac1-9c21-0b97380515bc-image.png

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Ok great. So the ping packets are arriving in the correct place. The client is not responding so either it can't respond (it's blocking them) or it never sees the pings.

                                            Next try running the packet capture on the openvpn interface to make sure the pings are leaving the correct way.

                                            You can also check the state table while that ping is running so make sure pfSense is open states on the correct interfaces.

                                            Can I assume that if you ping the other way, from 50.50.50.2 to 192.168.140.57, it works?

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