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    High Avail secondary node IPs - How to find it

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yup the primary will reference the secondary sync IP and you may be able to access it using that. That does depend on what the sync interface allows, though a lot of users will allow anything there if it's a direct connection.

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        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 @viragomann
        Thank you both you are correct!
        Now the secondary isn’t responding to ssh or https. Yet there are no errors when syncing. Weird. .

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          viragomann @michmoor
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          @michmoor
          Did you check the outbound NAT and firewall rules on the sync interface?

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            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @viragomann
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            @viragomann hmm

            Maybe thats the problem? I am trying to access the secondary node over VPN.

            Here are the outbound rules i am using

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            Source - My office LAN address that goes over the VPN
            Destination - pfSync address of the backup node
            NAT Address - That is the LAN address of the master (not the VIP lan address)

            Is this accurate?

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              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
              last edited by michmoor

              Ok...That fixed it. It was the outbound NAT rule requirement

              Backup node is accessible over VPN and boy..........does not look good.

              I also see packages not synced over - such as SUDO, OpenVPN client export, mtr...
              Firewall rules are there but things appear missing.

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @michmoor
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                @michmoor I was going to say, disconnect the primary and log in using the shared IP. :)

                Package installs do not automatically install on the secondary. Package config may sync if the package supports it.

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                  @SteveITS Full disclousre. This is my second time working on a HA configuration on pfsense so the nuances I'm not familiar with namely package sync.

                  So on the standby node i have to manual install the same set of packages? Thats no problem i just wanted to be clear.

                  And get this....The secondary had the pfSync interface using WAN while the primary had the pfSync interface using the dedicated interface labeled HA

                  So clearly this can work but its so weird.

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                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @michmoor
                    last edited by

                    @michmoor yeah…agree with your label.

                    https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/highavailability/settings.html

                    There is state sync and one-way config sync. The latter I’d think could be allowed on WAN by firewall rules, but why???

                    Yes install packages yourself.

                    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                      @SteveITS
                      One last thing. Im using IPsec here and I'm testing failover. So far it does failover to the Backup node but i noticed the firewall rules are not syncing to my VTI interface.

                      According to the documentation i must create the interface manually which i understand but shouldn't the firewall rules come over as well?

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                        viragomann @michmoor
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                        @michmoor
                        Yes, presumed you have configured the VTI interface on the backup node as well.

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                          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @viragomann
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                          @viragomann yep. Same interface assignment

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                            last edited by

                            Im really not understanding why my VTI interfaces are not syncing up.
                            The interface assignments are the exact same

                            Master
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                            Backup
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                            Yet the only interface with firewall rules not syncing is the VTI. Very strange behavior.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Is it ipsec1 on the primary too or ipsec0?

                              Yeah sync can work between any interfaces but it's much better to use a dedicated sync interface if you can.

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                                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 ipsec1 on both. I shared pictures above

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Is the IPSec filter option set to VTI mode on both nodes?

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                                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 Yep it sure is.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Hmm, well it's possible to set individual rules to not sync. That might have been done for some reason.

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                                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10

                                        I thought the same as well but the "No XMLRPC Sync" checkbox is unchecked.

                                        Logs show no errors. I even tried re-creating the interface and still no luck

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          No error on the Secondary either?

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                                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                            last edited by michmoor

                                            @stephenw10

                                            Figured it out.
                                            The primary has OPT3 - IPsec1
                                            The secondary has OPT4 - IPsec1

                                            I was just looking at the IPsec1 identifier but clearly the OPT has to match. So i deleted the interface on the secondary and made sure that when it got recreated the OPT identifier matched. Once that's done Rules synced across.

                                            The last thing I'm dealing with now is IPsec failover is very slow. An outage of over 3-4 minutes. CARP WAN address is being used but i do notice in my logs that the firewall keeps trying to initiate a connection using the WAN address and not the WAN CARP address. Is this normal?

                                            Eventually, the firewalls speak and all is well.

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