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    High Avail secondary node IPs - How to find it

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      viragomann @michmoor
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      @michmoor
      Did you check the outbound NAT and firewall rules on the sync interface?

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        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @viragomann
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        @viragomann hmm

        Maybe thats the problem? I am trying to access the secondary node over VPN.

        Here are the outbound rules i am using

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        Source - My office LAN address that goes over the VPN
        Destination - pfSync address of the backup node
        NAT Address - That is the LAN address of the master (not the VIP lan address)

        Is this accurate?

        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
          last edited by michmoor

          Ok...That fixed it. It was the outbound NAT rule requirement

          Backup node is accessible over VPN and boy..........does not look good.

          I also see packages not synced over - such as SUDO, OpenVPN client export, mtr...
          Firewall rules are there but things appear missing.

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          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @michmoor
            last edited by

            @michmoor I was going to say, disconnect the primary and log in using the shared IP. :)

            Package installs do not automatically install on the secondary. Package config may sync if the package supports it.

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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              @SteveITS Full disclousre. This is my second time working on a HA configuration on pfsense so the nuances I'm not familiar with namely package sync.

              So on the standby node i have to manual install the same set of packages? Thats no problem i just wanted to be clear.

              And get this....The secondary had the pfSync interface using WAN while the primary had the pfSync interface using the dedicated interface labeled HA

              So clearly this can work but its so weird.

              Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
              Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
              Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
              Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
              JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @michmoor
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                @michmoor yeah…agree with your label.

                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/highavailability/settings.html

                There is state sync and one-way config sync. The latter I’d think could be allowed on WAN by firewall rules, but why???

                Yes install packages yourself.

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                  @SteveITS
                  One last thing. Im using IPsec here and I'm testing failover. So far it does failover to the Backup node but i noticed the firewall rules are not syncing to my VTI interface.

                  According to the documentation i must create the interface manually which i understand but shouldn't the firewall rules come over as well?

                  Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                  Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                  JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                    viragomann @michmoor
                    last edited by

                    @michmoor
                    Yes, presumed you have configured the VTI interface on the backup node as well.

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                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @viragomann
                      last edited by

                      @viragomann yep. Same interface assignment

                      Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                      Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                      JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                        last edited by

                        Im really not understanding why my VTI interfaces are not syncing up.
                        The interface assignments are the exact same

                        Master
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                        Backup
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                        Yet the only interface with firewall rules not syncing is the VTI. Very strange behavior.

                        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Is it ipsec1 on the primary too or ipsec0?

                          Yeah sync can work between any interfaces but it's much better to use a dedicated sync interface if you can.

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 ipsec1 on both. I shared pictures above

                            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Is the IPSec filter option set to VTI mode on both nodes?

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                                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 Yep it sure is.

                                Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Hmm, well it's possible to set individual rules to not sync. That might have been done for some reason.

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                                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10

                                    I thought the same as well but the "No XMLRPC Sync" checkbox is unchecked.

                                    Logs show no errors. I even tried re-creating the interface and still no luck

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                                    Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                    Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                    Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                    Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                    JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      No error on the Secondary either?

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                                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                        last edited by michmoor

                                        @stephenw10

                                        Figured it out.
                                        The primary has OPT3 - IPsec1
                                        The secondary has OPT4 - IPsec1

                                        I was just looking at the IPsec1 identifier but clearly the OPT has to match. So i deleted the interface on the secondary and made sure that when it got recreated the OPT identifier matched. Once that's done Rules synced across.

                                        The last thing I'm dealing with now is IPsec failover is very slow. An outage of over 3-4 minutes. CARP WAN address is being used but i do notice in my logs that the firewall keeps trying to initiate a connection using the WAN address and not the WAN CARP address. Is this normal?

                                        Eventually, the firewalls speak and all is well.

                                        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          What are they connected to?

                                          If the IPSec is on the CARP VIP at this end the secondary should start trying to connect as soon as it fails over but the remote side will have to time-out before starts trying.

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                                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10 Remote side is me. How do i speed up the cutover? Is there a way?

                                            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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