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    High Avail secondary node IPs - How to find it

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      viragomann @michmoor
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      @michmoor said in High Avail secondary node IPs - How to find it:

      There was an Outbound NAT policy that said
      Interface: WAN
      Source: Any
      Destination: Any
      Nat Address: 'CARP WAN Address'

      That seemed incorrect because my assumption is that any source address would include the firewall source address as well.

      That's correct. Outbound traffic from the firewall itself must not be natted to the CARP VIP.

      If you have multiple local subnets and want to use any for the source you can override the default outbound NAT rule by additional ones for the firewall itself at the top of the rule set:

      6037f6d5-0d87-42d0-93ca-2933acedacca-grafik.png

      Also remember, that connections to port 500 must keep the port static.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Yup, that^.

        Outbound NAT rules should almost never use source 'any'. Always define the subnets you actually need translation from to avoid over matching. IPSec is most commonly broken by that but other things can be.

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10
          So on my firewall, i have the following SNAT rules. Do i need to create one for NAT-T as shown in your picture @viragomann

          03d022a1-0989-43da-9b60-7163cb14630f-image.png

          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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            viragomann @michmoor
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            @michmoor
            No, if you don't have a manual rule natting to any other IP than WAN address (e.g. CARP), you don't need a specific rule for IPSec NAT-T.
            However, I assumed, we were talking about a CARP setup.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              But I would set a source for that manual rule over the VPN so it can never over-match traffic that shouldn't be NAT'd.

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                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @viragomann
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                @viragomann Sorry i sent a screen shot of my own pfsense not in HA mode but i wanted to ensure i didn't need to do any SNAT rules here

                Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10
                  So you mean for source address use the WAN interface?

                  Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                  Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                  JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Nope the source should be the subnet (or subnets) that need to be translated to the VPN address. So whatever internet subnet(s) you;re routing over the VPN.

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                      viragomann @michmoor
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                      @michmoor said in High Avail secondary node IPs - How to find it:

                      @viragomann Sorry i sent a screen shot of my own pfsense not in HA mode but i wanted to ensure i didn't need to do any SNAT rules here

                      In a CARP set up you might have an outbound NAT rule in place, natting the source address to the CARP VIP. Maybe your outbound NAT is also in manual mode, not hybrid.
                      In this case you need an additional rule for pfSense itself as shown in my screenshot above. But it would be sufficient to have the last one of these if you don't need ISAKMP (NAT-T doesn't use it, as far as I know).
                      And the NAT-T rule in my screen is due to using a specific outbound IP.

                      @stephenw10 said in High Avail secondary node IPs - How to find it:

                      Nope the source should be the subnet (or subnets) that need to be translated to the VPN address.

                      Hint: you can also state an alias here by selecting "Network" and entering the network alias with a /32 mask.

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                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @viragomann
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                        @viragomann @stephenw10

                        I appreciate you folk working with me on this thread. I think i ironed out all the issues and/or misunderstandings i was having here.

                        Appreciate yall !

                        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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