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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Hmm, yes that seems unrelated. Though odd, I've not seen that before. Is that the first time you've seen that.

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        diyhouse @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10
        yes... (And now 2days 18hrs 44Mins...)
        Edit 5pm 22nd Aug: Uptime: 4d 01:52:12...
        Edit 5pm 23rd Aug: Uptime: 5d 02:32:21

        and the log files sizes as follows,.. I would have hoped they would have been rotated by now... as they are getting quite large, even for a text file..

        -rw-------  1 root wheel     67068 Aug 22 04:13 dhcpd.log.0.bz2
        -rw-------  1 root wheel     69926 Aug 23 16:57 ntpd.log
        -rw-------  1 root wheel    118511 Aug 23 00:24 gateways.log
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel    135309 Sep  6  2020 bsdinstall_log
        -rw-------  1 root wheel    511488 Sep  6  2020 relayd.log
        -rw-------  1 root wheel   1184280 Aug 23 17:35 dhcpd.log
        -rw-------  1 root wheel  33500421 Aug 23 17:36 nginx.log
        -rw-------  1 root wheel  74443513 Aug 23 17:36 filter.log
        -rw-------  1 root wheel 551582783 Aug 23 17:36 ppp.log
        -rw-------  1 root wheel 551721292 Aug 23 17:36 system.log
        
        
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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Mmm, I would certainly expect that. The default log size is 512KB. Did you change it to something much larger?

          Having said that perhaps Openreach finally realised there was a problem and fixed it. Whenever I've had issues it was always a failing line card upstream.

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            diyhouse @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 said in WAN periodically Rebooting:

            Did you change it to something much larger?

            Yes,.. to 2000000000 bytes... like 2gig..
            I have now dropped it a power of 10,.. to 200,000,000 bytes...

            I to was wondering if BT had got wise to my troubles and changed something upstream of my modem...
            But we shall see..

            I will leave the high logging in place for now... ( lets see if I can get to 10days...) then I will revert back,.. and see what happens.

            Funny,.. things may have changed since I contacted BT,.. for account and passwd,. maybe an issue was raised,.. and something changed,.. but who knows..
            I cat 'top' in a shell.. and see it is busy compressing,..

            -rw-------  1 root wheel     4599 Aug 17 13:06 ppp.log.1.bz2
            -rw-------  1 root wheel   635473 Aug 23 20:46 ppp.log
            -rw-------  1 root wheel 16623975 Aug 23 20:36 ppp.log.0.bz2
            
            
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              diyhouse @diyhouse
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              @diyhouse
              One question I have,.. whilst in 'limbo'... the logs generated, have lots of the following;

              Aug 25 09:22:30	ppp	67004	[wan] OUT util: total 29% 12% 61% 36% 6% 29% 27%
              Aug 25 09:22:30	ppp	67004	[wan] IN util: total 625% 21% 2280% 1205% 108% 22% 111%
              

              Are you able to spread any light on what the % values mean,...
              Many tx
              uptime currently running at 6d 18hrs

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                Not really. I've never tried turning up the logs to 11 like that before. 😉

                Edit: Appears to be the calculated bandwidth utilization:
                https://sourceforge.net/p/mpd/svn/HEAD/tree/tags/RELEASE_5_9/src/bund.c#l1620

                Not sure how applicable that is to PPPoE. Clearly it isn't actually pushing > 2000% of the available upload!

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                  diyhouse @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 Well I got to 9 days,.. and a bit,.. and WAN has fallen over,...
                  Looks similar to before,.. but I will leave it for you to pass definitive comment on the details..
                  KR

                  pfsenselogfail27Aug.zip

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Hmm, that's not the same. It looks like something local called the interface down:
                    (reversed)

                    Aug 27 20:14:57	ppp	67004	[wan_link0] Link: DOWN event
                    Aug 27 20:14:57	ppp	67004	[wan_link0] device: DOWN event
                    Aug 27 20:14:57	ppp	67004	[wan_link0] PPPoE: connection closed
                    Aug 27 20:14:57	ppp	67004	EVENT: Processing event EVENT_READ PppoeCtrlReadEvent()
                    

                    Is that the full system log or just the ppp log? Anything else logged if it's the latter?

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                      diyhouse @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10
                      Tried to access logs.. but they have now gone,.. compressed I suspect
                      But subsequently I have had another failure of the WAN around 2:25pm today
                      Have tried to apply a time filter as follows

                      Aug 28 14:2[1-8]
                      

                      But this does not present anything to display, even when set to 17:2[1-8]
                      Also suspect php is struggling with the large GUI no. of lines,.. as it does seem to take a long time..

                      Have looked at the /etc/group file,.. and considering adding my user to the wheel group so I can at least copy and vi the log file... Yes I'm ok with vi..
                      then I can at least look further back at the compressed files...
                      Is this a BAD idea...?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Probably fine. Or just login as admin which should have root access to everything.

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                          diyhouse @stephenw10
                          last edited by diyhouse

                          @stephenw10 durr,.. I assumed admin was a restricted account..

                          Hey now were cookin,.. so much easier as root
                          it seems on quick glance things started failing much sooner...
                          does this log file help,.. ??

                          logfail1400.7z

                          and BTW,,. I also have another one of these

                          PHP errors
                          PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php, Line: 188, Message: Uncaught ValueError: date_create_from_format(): Argument #2 ($datetime) must not contain any null bytes in /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php:188
                          Stack trace:
                          #0 /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php(188): date_create_from_format('m/d/Y-H:i:s.u', '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00...')
                          #1 /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php(78): suricata_widget_get_alerts()
                          #2 {main}
                          thrown @ 2024-08-20 13:52:51
                          
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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Not seeing any issues in that log. It only covers 30s though. You can see it receiving and sending LCP echos.

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                              diyhouse @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10
                              Sorry,.. I thought the stuff at the start was the initial falling over of the WAN

                              This certainly has the WAN falling over and restarting

                              logfile1425.7z

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Right. Same as before. It processes the timer events every second. But at 14:23:21 it sees a new event:

                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: EVENT: Processing event EVENT_READ PppoeCtrlReadEvent()
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: [wan_link0] PPPoE: connection closed
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: [wan_link0] device: DOWN event
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: [wan_link0] Link: DOWN event
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: EVENT: Starting timer "PhysOpen" LinkReopenTimeout() for 3000 ms at link.c:313
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: EVENT: Registering event EVENT_TIMEOUT TimerExpires() at timer.c:50
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: EVENT: Registering event EVENT_TIMEOUT TimerExpires() done at timer.c:50
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: [wan_link0] LCP: Down event
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: [wan_link0] LCP: state change Opened --> Starting
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: [wan_link0] LCP: phase shift NETWORK --> DEAD
                                Aug 28 14:23:21 pfSense ppp[67004]: [wan_link0] Link: Leave bundle "wan"
                                ...
                                

                                Something appears to be actively closing the connection. But I have no idea what that might be.

                                I don't suppose you have ever set dial-on-demand or an idle timeout on that ppp config? Not that it appeared to be idle before that happened.

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                                  diyhouse @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  Steve,.. vi'd a copy of the ppp.log file.. (950k lines ) and did a search on

                                  LinkReopenTimeout
                                  

                                  and 'word-count' to my dismay I have found 27 occurrences in the last couple of days...

                                  where would I set,..

                                  idle timeout on that ppp config
                                  

                                  Not that I recall ever setting one,.. as it would not have made sense to me,.. I would have selected a continuous connection,.. power usage is / was minimal...
                                  But,.. where would I set one if required?

                                  Just a thought,.. could this be temperature related,.. it is approx, 30C in my loft currently..

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                                    Gertjan @diyhouse
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                                    @diyhouse said in WAN periodically Rebooting:

                                    But,.. where would I set one if required?

                                    Under Advanced Option :

                                    50475369-aaee-4fdf-ab7e-394eb99ce569-image.png

                                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                      diyhouse @Gertjan
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                                      @Gertjan Thanks for the hint.. found it..
                                      I can confirm all options under advanced are 'not ticked'
                                      However, . 'configure NULL service' is enabled in the 'ppp config', and the associated field is blank,. if that means anything??
                                      and periodic reset is disabled, and link type is PPPoE..

                                      And I now have another one of these crash logs

                                      Crash report begins.  Anonymous machine information:
                                      
                                      amd64
                                      14.0-CURRENT
                                      FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT amd64 1400094 #1 RELENG_2_7_2-n255948-8d2b56da39c: Wed Dec  6 20:45:47 UTC 2023     root@freebsd:/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-CE-snapshots-2_7_2-main/obj/amd64/StdASW5b/var/jenkins/workspace/pfSense-CE-snapshots-2_7_2-main/sources/F
                                      
                                      Crash report details:
                                      
                                      PHP Errors:
                                      [29-Aug-2024 16:18:41 Europe/London] PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught ValueError: date_create_from_format(): Argument #2 ($datetime) must not contain any null bytes in /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php:188
                                      Stack trace:
                                      #0 /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php(188): date_create_from_format('m/d/Y-H:i:s.u', '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00...')
                                      #1 /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php(78): suricata_widget_get_alerts()
                                      #2 {main}
                                        thrown in /usr/local/www/widgets/widgets/suricata_alerts.widget.php on line 188
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      No FreeBSD crash data found.
                                      
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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Mmm, those PHP errors are odd. However it's only in the Suricata widget. It's not going to affect the PPPoE connection.

                                        Do you also see 27 (or the same number) when searching for PppoeCtrlReadEvent?

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                                          diyhouse @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10
                                          Hi Stephen,.. doing a

                                          grep -o 'PppoeCtrlReadEvent' ppp.log | wc -l
                                          

                                          I get 54 occurrences... humm twice the number of LinkReopenTimeout..

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Hmm, OK yup that actually appears a bunch of times during the reconnect

                                            PPPoE: connection closed only appears once per disconnect though.

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