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    Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?

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      Jarhead @joshgreyz
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      @joshgreyz I think it does answer it... April 1st. Get it?

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      • AndyRHA
        AndyRH
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        It is either true or a terrible joke. Most think a terrible joke because it is not outrageous or obviously a joke.
        These posts will be around for years unless it is clarified.

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        7100-1u

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          Jarhead @AndyRH
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          @AndyRH It's already been clarified.

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          • AndyRHA
            AndyRH @Jarhead
            last edited by

            @Jarhead The page does not clearly state it is a joke, so these posts from people running across it will continue for years.

            o||||o
            7100-1u

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              nimrod @AndyRH
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              The fact that it caused all this makes it a great joke. I feel sorry for people that dont get it. You people need to learn to relax sometimes.

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                mer
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                "Hey Siri, how do I know that I've done a successful April Fools joke?" Siri says "when people suffering from a data to keyboard malfuction think you are serious".

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                  Jarhead @AndyRH
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                  @AndyRH said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                  @Jarhead The page does not clearly state it is a joke, so these posts from people running across it will continue for years.

                  True but that would defeat the purpose of the post.
                  I meant all you have to do is a quick search here and it's been clarified.

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                    Dobby_ @joshgreyz
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                    @joshgreyz

                    Only someone from the Netgate Team will be able to answer this question.

                    #~. @Dobby

                    Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                    PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                    PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                      joshgreyz
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                      LOL LOL LOL - let's make jokes at everyone's expense - good job everyone!

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                        jpv9 @AndyRH
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                        @AndyRH
                        As of Sept 2024, I am still getting questioned about this post from clients. Netgate needs to put a postscript on the original post in stating this was an April Fool's Joke if it really is one.

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                        • AndyRHA
                          AndyRH @jpv9
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                          @jpv9 Two things will always be true:

                          1. Not everyone is gifted with communication.
                          2. Not everyone can tell a joke.

                          Netgate could use improvement in these areas.

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                          7100-1u

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                            jwt Netgate @jpv9
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                            @jpv9 what if it wasn’t a joke?

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jwt
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                              @jwt you are a rascal Jim.. Lets just go along with the gag, and it wasn't a joke.. Then April 1 was a horrible choice for making it public ;)

                              Looking forward to next April fools - this one is going to be hard to top - heheh

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                                nimrod @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                @jwt you are a rascal Jim.. Lets just go along with the gag, and it wasn't a joke.. Then April 1 was a horrible choice for making it public ;)

                                Looking forward to next April fools - this one is going to be hard to top - heheh

                                What do you mean its hard? Just say that CE version is getting canceled.

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @nimrod
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                                  @nimrod said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                  Just say that CE version is getting canceled

                                  Hahah - that would be good one, but we already get so many people thinking that is true anyway..

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                                    nimrod @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz

                                    Yeah. But just imagine the amount of "i told you so" comments.

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                                      jwt Netgate @nimrod
                                      last edited by jwt

                                      @nimrod said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                      @johnpoz

                                      Yeah. But just imagine the amount of "i told you so" comments.

                                      Right?

                                      So why give them what they want?

                                      Netgate is the #3 contributor of sponsored commits to freebsd over the past 3 years.

                                      bash-3.2$ git remote -v
                                      origin	https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd.git (fetch)
                                      origin	https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd.git (push)
                                      bash-3.2$ git branch
                                        list
                                      * main
                                        master
                                      bash-3.2$ git log --first-parent --since=3year | sed  -E 's/\^.\*Sponsored.\[Bb\]y:\[\[:space:\]\]\*//p' | grep -i Sponsored  | sed s/.*[Ss]ponsored\ [Bb]y://| awk '{$1=$1};1' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -20
                                      3344 The FreeBSD Foundation
                                      1569 Netflix
                                       807 Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                       616 Klara, Inc.
                                       448 Beckhoff Automation GmbH & Co. KG
                                       358 Chelsio Communications
                                       357 Arm Ltd
                                       314 Juniper Networks, Inc.
                                       266 NVIDIA Networking
                                       152 Netflix, Inc.
                                       130 NetApp, Inc.
                                       130 Innovate UK
                                       122 DARPA
                                       103 Stormshield
                                        91 Axcient
                                        71 Dell EMC Isilon
                                        64 https://www.patreon.com/cperciva
                                        64 Serenity Cyber Security, LLC
                                        59 Intel Corporation
                                        51 NVidia networking
                                      bash-3.2$ 
                                      

                                      and note that this misses 7 commits that are

                                      Rubicon Communications, LLC (Netgate)

                                      instead of

                                      Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")

                                      which uniq sees as a different string.

                                      If you back off to 5 years (just prior to the pandemic) it's even more dramatic

                                      bash-3.2$ git log --first-parent --since=5year | sed  -E 's/\^.\*Sponsored.\[Bb\]y:\[\[:space:\]\]\*//p' | grep -i Sponsored  | sed s/.*[Ss]ponsored\ [Bb]y://| awk '{$1=$1};1' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head
                                      5437 The FreeBSD Foundation
                                      2079 Netflix
                                      1079 Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                       729 Klara, Inc.
                                       664 Chelsio Communications
                                       448 Beckhoff Automation GmbH & Co. KG
                                       357 DARPA
                                       357 Arm Ltd
                                       330 Juniper Networks, Inc.
                                       306 NetApp, Inc.
                                      bash-3.2$ 
                                      
                                      

                                      and

                                      bash-3.2$ git log --first-parent --since=5year | sed  -E 's/\^.\*Sponsored.\[Bb\]y:\[\[:space:\]\]\*//p' | grep -i Sponsored  | sed s/.*[Ss]ponsored\ [Bb]y://| awk '{$1=$1};1' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | grep -i netgate
                                      1079 Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                        50 Rubicon Communications, LLC (Netgate)
                                        31 Rubicon Communications, LLC (netgate.com)
                                        20 Rubicon Communications, LLC (d/b/a "Netgate")
                                         6 Sponsored-by: Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                         3 Rubicon Communications, LLC (“Netgate”’)
                                         2 Netgate, Inc.
                                         1 Rubicon LLC, (Netgate)
                                         1 Netgate
                                      
                                      

                                      We have a lot of changes to pf coming in that are still in review. This is just some of them.

                                      https://reviews.freebsd.org/p/kp/

                                      So the question I wish people would ask: "Why would Netgate still be investing heavily in FreeBSD if they were just going to abandon it like people say?"

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                                        jwt Netgate @jwt
                                        last edited by jwt

                                        @jwt said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                        https://reviews.freebsd.org/p/kp/

                                        Coincidentally, we're also a big contributor to VPP

                                        https://www.stackalytics.io/unaffiliated?module=github.com/fdio/vpp

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                                        • JonathanLeeJ
                                          JonathanLee
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                                          April fools joke

                                          Make sure to upvote

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                                            Patch @jwt
                                            last edited by Patch

                                            @jwt said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                            we're also a big contributor to VPP

                                            For those (like me) not familiar with VPP https://github.com/FDio/vpp

                                            Vector Packet Processing
                                            The VPP platform is an extensible framework that provides out-of-the-box production quality switch/router functionality. It is the open source version of Cisco's Vector Packet Processing (VPP) technology

                                            Which runs on Linux https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/What_is_VPP%3F

                                            The VPP platform supports package installation on the following operating systems:

                                            Debian
                                            Ubuntu 16.04
                                            Centos 7.3
                                            

                                            So likely the underlying engine for TNSR

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