Outlook sign in technology for notifications
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@jrey I guess I'll find out next week. But as I mentioned in an earlier reply I am only using this email account in two places... One is on my Synology and the other is here. Pretty sure it's not the NAS as mentioned, so that just leaves this. Maybe this is much ado about nothing.
My coffee maker is not connected to the net. ;)
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@mtk67 and so did your notifications stop?
I just setup notification in my 2.7.2 vm using outlook.com - didn't even create an app password and working
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The emails are still working as of this morning. That tells me that either they:
A. Didn’t make any change yet despite the 9/16 advertised deadline. -or-
B. Incorrectly identified customers using SMTP with LOGIN and created unnecessary panic.Hoping it’s B. If I end up seeing an impact I will post an update back to this thread. But all seems to be working unchanged as of today (9/18).
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By the way, thanks for all the replies, ideas, and help here. Much appreciated!
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@mtk67 said in Outlook sign in technology for notifications:
created unnecessary panic.
No - not MS, don't say it is so ;)
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@mtk67 Wanted to post an update in case others are having the same problem. The emails continued to work until this week. Now I get an authentication error, so it seems MSFT had a grace period after their stated deadline.
The auth error is
Error: LOGIN authentication failure [SMTP: Invalid response code received from server (code: 535, response: 5.7.139
Authentication unsuccessful, basic authentication is disabled. [LV3P220CA0009.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM 2024-10-01 T01:39:18.356Z 08DCE11B520D41E6])]I'll wait patiently until netgate provides an auth fix for this. Still working fine on Synology which uses OAUTH2. Otherwise I'll need to switch to another email provider, though they all seem to be going the same route these days.
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@mtk67 still working here
Are you using LOGIN, like in my above example?
PLAIN yeah fails
Change it back to LOGIN and works
what version of pfsense are you using? This is from my 2.7.2 version.
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@jrey said in Outlook sign in technology for notifications:
But isn't this a simple as the Poster likely has "PLAIN" and needs to select the other available option "LOGIN" ?
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Yeah,
and this one (@mtk67 :):
Microsoft has not like 'us, the common mortals', just one mail server behind one IP.
They have probably a couple of hundreds or more, and they get updated and upgraded one by one - not "all at ones at midnight". After all, if there was some update/upgrade issue, its always better to hinder just 1 % of you clients instead of "all of them at ones".So, imho, the upcoming app password is a thing, and will be phased in over time.
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@jrey no. It’s not that simple. I have LOGIN selected not PLAIN.
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@johnpoz said in Outlook sign in technology for notifications:
what version of pfsense are you using?
Same question.
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@jrey so have you created a app password? You sure you hit save all the way on the bottom for if you changed it login? Your is saying basic, my error says plain.
Once/If I get the failure I can switch it over to app password to see if that corrects it. But @Gertjan could be right they could have it rolling through their servers, and I have just not hit one yet.
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@johnpoz 100% that I’m using an app password. I needed it because I enabled 2FA on the account. Also certain that I’m not using PLAIN. If I can post screenshots here I’ll post it of my settings tonight when I get home. Then we can compare notes.
I read a tech note on their site last night and even went so far as to try using settings for the old POP format (ewww) just to see if it would make a difference.
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@jrey the latest 24-03 release. I am not running any prerelease/beta code.
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Not me with the issue. That would be @mtk67
PLAIN = BASIC
LOGIN should work IMHO. -
But I also stated very early, I don't use outlook accounts on the Netgate. I received the notice from MS from a different system that was sending with PLAIN/BASIC it failed, I changed it works.
Which is why I suspect the pfSense stuff "should" work the same.I also thought that is what your previous post 4 hours ago - was demonstrating.
Yes rollouts of new code can take longer than expected (take Netgate for example - lol) may as well call it 24.10 now if that mark is hit..
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I was using outlook with app password and login and it just fails to connect
