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    • Bob.DigB
      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @gregeeh
      last edited by

      @gregeeh Then I would delete and recreate the gateway. At least there is nothing I can think about, that could be the cause in your case.
      Do you have another IPv6 Gateway? Diagnostics is using this if WAN6 is not up.

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      • gregeehG
        gregeeh @Bob.Dig
        last edited by

        @Bob-Dig Thanks for your reply.

        I hear what you are saying, but I have changed nothing in pfsense for months. So why does it suddenly stop?

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        • GertjanG
          Gertjan @gregeeh
          last edited by Gertjan

          @gregeeh said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

          but I have changed nothing in pfsense for months

          That proves the issue is not on your side.

          If the IPv6 connection doesn't come up, it's normal that pinging to 2001:4860:4860::8844 doesn't work. It will keep on saying 'Pending'.
          How can ping work over a non existing connection anyway ^^

          To check the 'construction' of the connection, and if you use the dhcp client, switch the client do debug mode first.

          5a2d1bc8-32cd-4948-ab63-198657db4bc4-image.png

          Rebuild the connection.
          Admire the results here : Status > System Logs > DHCP - look for the lines where "Process" says "dhcp6c ".
          Compare working with non working sequence.

          Now you have the info to
          a) yell at your ISP
          or
          b) slap admin into the face.

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          • gregeehG
            gregeeh @Gertjan
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            @Gertjan said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

            That proves the issue is not on your side.

            You would think so, but IPv6 is working great on the clients.

            alt text

            I have even restored a backup of pfSense from 1 month ago when it was working, just to be sure, and I'm getting the same results.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              What does the interface status look like?

              Pending like that usually implies he interface hasn't come up. Or cannot arp for the gateway in IPv4.

              Is it trying to use the link-local address? What do the states show?

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              • gregeehG
                gregeeh @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10 said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                What does the interface status look like?

                alt text

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gregeeh
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @gregeeh well not sure how pfsense would talk to that IPv6 you have as monitoring from only a link local address.. While sure it can route traffic for you lan side device. Itself would not be able to talk to some gua IPv6 from that fe80 address.

                  Vs pointing to that google dns IP for monitor, just let it use its gateway which is just a link-local address. Since your wan doesn't seem to be getting a GUA address

                  You don't happen to have this checked do you?

                  checked.jpg

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                  • gregeehG
                    gregeeh @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                    @gregeeh well not sure how pfsense would talk to that IPv6 you have as monitoring from only a link local address.. While sure it can route traffic for you lan side device. Itself would not be able to talk to some gua IPv6 from that fe80 address.

                    Vs pointing to that google dns IP for monitor, just let it use its gateway which is just a link-local address. Since your wan doesn't seem to be getting a GUA address

                    I hear what you are saying but it has been working this way for months and has suddenly stopped. Do you think something might has changed on my ISP side?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by stephenw10

                      Hmm, normally pfSense itself will use a routable address as source but for gateway monitoring it always uses the interface address in order to be forced via the correct WAN.

                      I see exactly the same behaviour here with a WAN that delivers prefix only.

                      Screenshot from 2024-10-01 22-46-08.png

                      Did you always have link-local only there?

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gregeeh
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                        @gregeeh they might of stop giving the wan interface a gua address.. But I don't see how that would ever work, there is no way you can ping that gua from that link-local address..

                        @stephenw10 saying it would use a routeable address, yeah I would think so ;) but if it doesn't have one - what would it use, an IP from the lan side out of the prefix delegated?

                        What if you remove the google dns IP out of your monitoring.. Wont it just use the link-local gateway as its monitor, which you would hope would answer ping.

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                        • gregeehG
                          gregeeh
                          last edited by

                          Thanks everyone you are correct, I obviously did not always have a link-local address. Here is the Monitoring Graph showing when it stopped working:

                          alt text

                          Here is my ISP connection information:

                          alt text

                          Off to my ISP now, and once again thank you all for your assistance.

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                          CPU N3150, 2 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 2 Realtek Gb Ethernet ports.
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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                            what would it use, an IP from the lan side out of the prefix delegated?

                            Yes, that's exactly what it does.

                            And, yes, if you remove the remote address it pings the gateway link-local address just fine.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gregeeh
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                              @gregeeh said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                              I obviously did not always have a link-local address

                              Just to correct your wording here a bit, you would always have a link-local, always.. But you might not always have a gua address.

                              Its possible your gua went away for some reason? Did you check that setting I posted about not asking for one?

                              But seems like what @stephenw10 is saying, is if the wan doesn't get a gua, that it should use an IP out of the lan side prefix as the source when dpinger wants to talk to the monitor IP if that is a gua..

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                              • gregeehG
                                gregeeh @johnpoz
                                last edited by

                                @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                                You don't happen to have this checked do you?

                                alt text

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                                • chpalmerC
                                  chpalmer @johnpoz
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                                  Try adding a :1 to the end of your monitor IP.. I have to do that for a couple of my customers including my setup here..

                                  2001:4860:4860::8844:1

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @chpalmer
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                                    @chpalmer said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                                    2001:4860:4860::8844:1

                                    that is not the correct address for google dns, nor would it answer ping.. Nor would it matter if he has no gua to talk to it with.

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                                    • gregeehG
                                      gregeeh @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                                      But seems like what @stephenw10 is saying, is if the wan doesn't get a gua, that it should use an IP out of the lan side prefix as the source when dpinger wants to talk to the monitor IP if that is a gua..

                                      Only being a mere learner when it comes to networking issues, is there a way of of testing this?

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                                      • chpalmerC
                                        chpalmer @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                                        that is not the correct address for google dns, nor would it answer ping.. Nor would it matter if he has no gua to talk to it with.

                                        Yeah.. quick draw here.. I assumed it was the gateway address.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                                          But seems like what @stephenw10 is saying, is if the wan doesn't get a gua, that it should use an IP out of the lan side prefix as the source when dpinger wants to talk to the monitor IP if that is a gua..

                                          Ah, no that's not what I'm saying.

                                          pfSense will use a GUA address from some other interface for most traffic, pkg checks etc.

                                          It specifically will not use it for dpinger though. dpinger always uses the interface address so that it get's forced via the correct gateway by route-to. So it fails to anything beyond the segment with link-local only on the WAN.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            @stephenw10 thanks for the clarification.. But just curious why would it grab an IP from say lan to check for updates when it could just use the wans IPv4 address?

                                            Maybe this needs a bit of a note in the docs? Or maybe a warning vs just "pending" about no gua to use to check the gua monitoring IP? Prob a note where you set the other monitoring IPs about needing a gua to check gua based monitor IP?

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