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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by stephenw10

      Hmm, normally pfSense itself will use a routable address as source but for gateway monitoring it always uses the interface address in order to be forced via the correct WAN.

      I see exactly the same behaviour here with a WAN that delivers prefix only.

      Screenshot from 2024-10-01 22-46-08.png

      Did you always have link-local only there?

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gregeeh
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        @gregeeh they might of stop giving the wan interface a gua address.. But I don't see how that would ever work, there is no way you can ping that gua from that link-local address..

        @stephenw10 saying it would use a routeable address, yeah I would think so ;) but if it doesn't have one - what would it use, an IP from the lan side out of the prefix delegated?

        What if you remove the google dns IP out of your monitoring.. Wont it just use the link-local gateway as its monitor, which you would hope would answer ping.

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        • gregeehG
          gregeeh
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          Thanks everyone you are correct, I obviously did not always have a link-local address. Here is the Monitoring Graph showing when it stopped working:

          alt text

          Here is my ISP connection information:

          alt text

          Off to my ISP now, and once again thank you all for your assistance.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

            what would it use, an IP from the lan side out of the prefix delegated?

            Yes, that's exactly what it does.

            And, yes, if you remove the remote address it pings the gateway link-local address just fine.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gregeeh
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              @gregeeh said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

              I obviously did not always have a link-local address

              Just to correct your wording here a bit, you would always have a link-local, always.. But you might not always have a gua address.

              Its possible your gua went away for some reason? Did you check that setting I posted about not asking for one?

              But seems like what @stephenw10 is saying, is if the wan doesn't get a gua, that it should use an IP out of the lan side prefix as the source when dpinger wants to talk to the monitor IP if that is a gua..

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              • gregeehG
                gregeeh @johnpoz
                last edited by

                @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                You don't happen to have this checked do you?

                alt text

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                • chpalmerC
                  chpalmer @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  Try adding a :1 to the end of your monitor IP.. I have to do that for a couple of my customers including my setup here..

                  2001:4860:4860::8844:1

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @chpalmer
                    last edited by

                    @chpalmer said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                    2001:4860:4860::8844:1

                    that is not the correct address for google dns, nor would it answer ping.. Nor would it matter if he has no gua to talk to it with.

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                    • gregeehG
                      gregeeh @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                      But seems like what @stephenw10 is saying, is if the wan doesn't get a gua, that it should use an IP out of the lan side prefix as the source when dpinger wants to talk to the monitor IP if that is a gua..

                      Only being a mere learner when it comes to networking issues, is there a way of of testing this?

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                      • chpalmerC
                        chpalmer @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                        that is not the correct address for google dns, nor would it answer ping.. Nor would it matter if he has no gua to talk to it with.

                        Yeah.. quick draw here.. I assumed it was the gateway address.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                          But seems like what @stephenw10 is saying, is if the wan doesn't get a gua, that it should use an IP out of the lan side prefix as the source when dpinger wants to talk to the monitor IP if that is a gua..

                          Ah, no that's not what I'm saying.

                          pfSense will use a GUA address from some other interface for most traffic, pkg checks etc.

                          It specifically will not use it for dpinger though. dpinger always uses the interface address so that it get's forced via the correct gateway by route-to. So it fails to anything beyond the segment with link-local only on the WAN.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            @stephenw10 thanks for the clarification.. But just curious why would it grab an IP from say lan to check for updates when it could just use the wans IPv4 address?

                            Maybe this needs a bit of a note in the docs? Or maybe a warning vs just "pending" about no gua to use to check the gua monitoring IP? Prob a note where you set the other monitoring IPs about needing a gua to check gua based monitor IP?

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gregeeh
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                              @gregeeh said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                              is there a way of of testing this?

                              Testing what? that you can't talk to gua from a link-local fe80 address? Or that you adding that :1 on the end isn't a live IP that doesn't answer ping or dns? ;)

                              link-local is for the local network only, they do not route.. So no there is no way to talk to a gua from a link-local out to the internet.. If the gui is on the same network then yeah ok might be able to do it.. But from a sane networking point of view it shouldn't

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @johnpoz
                                last edited by

                                @johnpoz said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                                why would it grab an IP from say lan to check for updates when it could just use the wans IPv4 address?

                                It could. It will prefer IPv6 though if it has a IPv6 route it can use. If you set 'prefer IPv4' it will use that.

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                                • Bob.DigB
                                  Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @Bob.Dig
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                                  @Bob-Dig said in IPv6 Monitoring stuck on pending:

                                  Do you have another IPv6 Gateway? Diagnostics is using this if WAN6 is not up.

                                  Missed this one. Not having IPv6 on WAN is not that common around here but in other places it seems to be.

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                                  • gregeehG
                                    gregeeh @Bob.Dig
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                                    @Bob-Dig - No, only one IPv6 Gateway on WAN

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