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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Oct 20, 2024, 3:09 PM

    Hmm, really starts to seem like it must be a line issue.

    Though 70/70 seems like it might have been a measurement glitch because there is no sync speed for VDSL that would achieve that AFAIK.

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      diyhouse @stephenw10
      last edited by Oct 24, 2024, 4:26 PM

      @stephenw10
      BT engineer call booked..!
      Interesting went through the hoops of logging an engineer call,.. and BT self tests,.. it confirmed there was a line problem.
      Although it is somewhat confusing when they refer to status lights of the BT HomeHub for indication as to what is not working,.. in the following questions,..
      But hey ho,.. engineer scheduled for next week,.. ( my choice, I was offered tomorrow,.. But cannot do that ). So pretty good service I would say.

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        VioletDragon @diyhouse
        last edited by Oct 25, 2024, 7:46 AM

        @diyhouse I thought as much. Be interesting to see what the outcome.

        Regards

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          diyhouse @VioletDragon
          last edited by Oct 31, 2024, 10:22 AM

          @VioletDragon
          Well guys..the man from BT he came he saw, he played,..he did not fix!!

          He checked the line for errors etc,.. and found it to be we within spec. with zero errors. he checked things up stream,.. and found no issues... Everything to him looked and tested out fine, even did a reset of the upstream connection, but to no avail.
          Discussed why New Openreach Modem stayed connected for 10days ( but still below 100days ) or so, but Draytek was lucky to stay up for more than 5 minutes,.. even though it does show in DSL status, Actual speeds as 78/20Mbps,..and Attainable as 78/26Mbps...
          So as far as Openreach man can do,.. connection to my property is good,.. the problem is essentially my side.. but has no idea why Draytek keeps reconnecting,.. as he sees them all the time...
          Any thoughts guys,..
          tx

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Oct 31, 2024, 1:11 PM

            Earlier Draytek modems had several different firmware versions for different line conditions. I don't known if that's still true for the V166 but if it is you could try a different one.

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              diyhouse @stephenw10
              last edited by Oct 31, 2024, 1:40 PM

              @stephenw10
              Hi Stephen,..I did upgrade the Draytek to the lastest firmware available,..
              Maybe worth raising a support call with Draytek?

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Oct 31, 2024, 1:56 PM

                Yup may as well. They may have alternative firmware you could try.

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                  diyhouse @stephenw10
                  last edited by Oct 31, 2024, 2:15 PM

                  @stephenw10
                  https://www.draytek.co.uk/forum/dsl-specific-questions/24943-draytek-166?start=6

                  Just found this on the Draytek site....

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Oct 31, 2024, 2:33 PM

                    Hmm, well that would be painful.

                    Might need a TLDR post here as I can't recall excatly what you've tested at this point! You still saw disconnects with the Openreach modem(s) though?

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                      diyhouse @stephenw10
                      last edited by Oct 31, 2024, 2:38 PM

                      @stephenw10
                      Yes,.. was thinking this post was getting a little like war a peace,.. with nearly 160 posts...
                      Draytek log support opened,.. their sending me some tests to do...

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                        VioletDragon @diyhouse
                        last edited by Nov 4, 2024, 11:36 AM

                        @diyhouse Interesting, Can you attach a screenshot of the WAN interface ? What are your MTU/MSS settings for WAN ?

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                          diyhouse @VioletDragon
                          last edited by Nov 10, 2024, 9:45 PM

                          @VioletDragon
                          Sorry,. missed you post,.. ( lot going on this end )
                          Currently Draytek are looking at my logs of how / when the link closes etc,.. as they have said everything looks good to them... well at least from the screen shots.
                          MTU is set to 1492

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Nov 10, 2024, 11:19 PM

                            Can you make the Draytek do the PPPoE connection and see if it still drops?

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                              diyhouse @stephenw10
                              last edited by Nov 13, 2024, 10:17 AM

                              @stephenw10 Yes,.. was wondering to do that,.. as at the end of the day,.. one critical part of the puzzle we have not eliminated is the pfsense box itself,.. maybe h/w or config issues,.. unlikely but not impossible..
                              I think I have re config'd the Draytek to handle to PPPoE,.. and I think I can just connect the modem to one of the spare ports on the pfsense box,.. and add rules to just route all ( ipv6/4) traffic from a 192.168.3.0 network to 192.168.30.0 network...
                              This should then preserve all my 192.168.3.0 DNS mapping etc,.. and should be transparent to my overall network,..
                              Are my thoughts assumptions correct? Tx for any guidelines...

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Nov 13, 2024, 11:34 AM

                                Yes that should work. It may have some sort of DMZ feature to just forward all traffic to the internal pfSense WAN IP.

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                                  diyhouse @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Nov 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

                                  @stephenw10 Hi Guys,..
                                  Well bit the bullet,.. and connected the draytek directly to the DSL connection, and let it manage the connection.
                                  Good news I achieved a good solid connection that appeared stable during two sessions of 40min and 50mins... not the 3 or 4 mins as before with PPPoE and pfsense.
                                  'My' only problem, was my lack of understanding... ( I believe ).
                                  I naively thought that placing the Draytek on another LAN ..6.0 network, and creating a rule to pass all traffic between my 'base LAN on ...3.x' would suffice.
                                  Nope,.. the penny dropped as I realised I was no longer routing my DNS lookups to the correct LAN and device, So I thought/belive. As I still want pfsense to manage my security and DNS...
                                  I tried numerous DNS re-configs, that I could find and think off, as well as numerous Rules, but alas I did not strike lucky.
                                  Can someone enlighten my how I get Pfsense to point to the Draytek, ( IP 192.168.6.20 ), I assume this is how I point to it. and what rules I actually need...
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                                  Also the big question now is why does pfsense not hold a continuous connection,.. but lets save that for a rainy day.. Is it my config and 'rules'.
                                  Oh and needless to say when I connected back to original h/w config... that to was broken,.. ( thank goodness for config backups,.. and the ability to restore selected parts,.. fantastic. ) But I still had to reboot my working PC,.. I suspect it to,.. was confused by DNS as well..
                                  Ah thoughts..
                                  Thankyou in anticipation...
                                  KR

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by Nov 18, 2024, 2:02 AM

                                    What I'd expect to see would be the pfSense WAN connected to the Draytek in the new subnet.

                                    Traffic from pfSense would still be routed via the WAN but just not using PPPoE.

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                                      youngy @diyhouse
                                      last edited by Nov 18, 2024, 5:05 PM

                                      @diyhouse Hello,
                                      I'm not sure how much help this will be now you're letting the Draytek modem manage the VDSL connection, but I use the same modem (Vigor 166) in bridge mode with pfsense+ (sg2100). My internet connection is FTTC (no FTTH here yet either) provided by Zen. I've always had problems with frequent dropouts with the stock firmware to the point the modem was unusable (many times a day). In the end I got in touch with Draytek support and they sent me a link to access a different firmware (4.2.5 RC2 MDM6), which solved the problem. I don't get the uptime mentioned in this thread but two to three weeks between DSL resyncs is typical.

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                                        diyhouse @youngy
                                        last edited by Nov 18, 2024, 10:32 PM

                                        @youngy said in WAN periodically Rebooting:
                                        Many tx for your input suggestion..

                                        frequent dropouts

                                        Yes that s exactly my issue,... If I could get 2 or 3 weeks between reconnects that would be great.
                                        I have sent a note to Draytek requesting a link to the Firmware you suggested

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                                          diyhouse @youngy
                                          last edited by diyhouse Nov 20, 2024, 4:03 PM Nov 20, 2024, 4:02 PM

                                          @youngy Had a response from Draytek,.. as follows:-

                                          Please see link below to requested firmware
                                          
                                          https://fw.draytek.com.tw/Vigor166/Firmware/v4.2.5/
                                          
                                          However is from the .com website and is more suitable to infrastructure from outside the UK. So we cant guarantee that this will work properly but you are welcome to test it
                                          

                                          May I enquire of your country of use... and your ISP provider,.. if you dont mind..
                                          KR

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