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      Antibiotic @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

      you have unbound only listening on localhost

      No , its listening on pfSense interfaces as well:

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        Antibiotic @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

        But would prob just spin up a vpn on a vms somewhere - you can run a vps for a couple of bucks a month. I have one that is like 20 a year I can route traffic through, be more than capable of running a dns resolver for me.

        What is VPS, so cheap do you use?

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Antibiotic
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          @Antibiotic A vps (virtual private server) is just an instance you run on the internet somewhere.

          Its just a vm, so a full OS that you can really pretty much do anything you want on, just like some vm or server you would setup locally but its hosted somewhere on the internet.

          If your looking for a lowcost vps, check out https://lowendbox.com they have all sorts of links to deals.

          I show one on there currently at racknerd for like $10 a year.

          10.jpg

          check out for a few different $1 a month deals

          https://lowendbox.com/blog/1-vps-1-usd-vps-per-month/

          I use to have bunch of different ones in different locations, west cost, east cost, Chicago, EU (NL) - but I trimmed back and currently only one I have active is with https://buyvm.net/ which is 2$ a month currently.. Price has gone up over the years ;) I do have another server currently in NL.. But its not really a lowend box, and is more like $10 month vs a year.

          The one I have currently still have, I first got back in 2016, it was $15 a year then. Now its 24.. not really bad price increases, since over the years they have increased what you got for the money.. I might have to spin up one of these 10 a year guys to just kick the ties on it. Might switch over and save myself $15 a year ;) hehehe

          If I needed one in a specific location for something I was testing, the great things about these is you can have them spun up and active normally in a few minutes.

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            Antibiotic @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

            Its just a vm, so a full OS that you can really pretty much do anything you want on, just like some vm or server you would setup locally but its hosted somewhere on the internet.

            But in case of planning to use this VPS as private DNS server and VPN for my home net. Is it important to choose server as close to my real location or this not so important regarding my purposes. Second, this VPS have a more less easy setup of DNS server and VPN. I mean these procedures well instructed usually? or have some auto scripts to do on VPS side?

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              Antibiotic @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

              If your looking for a lowcost vps, check out https://lowendbox.com they have all sorts of links to deals.

              Also, if planning use as DNS server and VPN server, how much need RAM and CPU to be not overpay and do not have slow connections?

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Antibiotic
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                @Antibiotic dns would require pretty much nothing.. you could run that on a pi zero.. vpn on the other hand would depend on how fast of connection want/have and how much traffic your actually going to push through it.

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                  tinfoilmatt @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

                  Now that you can resolve yourself - I just don't get why everyone doesn't just resolve, you couldn't get me to go back to forwarding ever..

                  Simple: because the root name servers don't accept encyrpted queries. If you're resolving, every query leaving your LAN does so via sniffable cleartext to at least your ISP and whoever/whatever else they allow, knowingly or unknowingly, to sniff their LAN.

                  ISPs are massive corporate overlords—even more so in so-called 'developed countries' (e.g. AT&T, Charter, Comcast, Cox Communications, Frontier, Time Warner, Verizon, etc.) than lesser developed ones—and I'm not convinced they aren't all in bed with one another when it comes to sharing private customer data.

                  @Gertjan said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

                  You could still resolve, but then you need to VPN out all your traffic.

                  My opinion from a privacy perspective is that this would be the only acceptable alternative to DoT. (In fact, if you were really paranoid, you could encapsulate DoT queries within the tunnel to keep them hidden from even your VPN provider.)

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @tinfoilmatt
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                    @tinfoilmatt said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

                    ISPs are massive corporate overlords

                    but google and cloudflare - they don't do anything with your data at all?

                    You do understand sending your dns over dot, doesn't stop the isp from knowing where your going - they are the ones handling the traffic and that https has the fqdn in the clear right in the sni.. So until ech is a an actual thing.. hiding your "dns" from your isp isn't doing much of anything, and now your just handing over all that info to google or cloudflare, etc.. on silver platter.. But hey you do you, if it helps you sleep at night..

                    If your goal is to hide where you go from your isp, then use a vpn, and then resolve through the vpn.. Now your isp doesn't know anything other than your moving traffic back and forth between your vpn, and your not handing all your data over to dns guys either.

                    If you don't want your vpn to know, run your own via a vps, etc.

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                      tinfoilmatt @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

                      but google and cloudflare - they don't do anything with your data at all?

                      John, you're not seriously comparing what a company like Cloudflare has done and is still doing for a free and open Internet where user privacy is reasonably maximally respected—with telecom and mass media conglomerates, are you?

                      And what about Quad9? They answer DoT queries...

                      You do understand sending your dns over dot, doesn't stop the isp from knowing where your going - they are the ones handling the traffic and that https has the fqdn in the clear right in the sni.. So until ech is a an actual thing.. hiding your "dns" from your isp isn't doing much of anything, and now your just handing over all that info to google or cloudflare, etc.. on silver platter.. But hey you do you, if it helps you sleep at night..

                      You're right. And ECH will only reach wide-scale adoption through the work of people and organizations who value user privacy over commercial interests (or, for those that don't, have their hand forced by those who do). That's exactly why it's a "thing" at all.

                      I respect anybody who's at least trying to find better sleep at night over someone who's thrown their hands up.

                      If you don't want your vpn to know, run your own via a vps, etc.

                      Thought about that after I posted. Added to the 'maybe' section of the never-ending project list. Encapsulated DoT would still avoid the VPS cost altogether.

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                        tinfoilmatt @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

                        If you don't want your vpn to know, run your own via a vps, etc.

                        Unless you mean operate your own DoT-enabled resolver on a VPS...

                        Interesting. 🤔

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                          Antibiotic @tinfoilmatt
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                          @tinfoilmatt said in DNS Resolver Infrastructure Cache Stats:

                          In fact, if you were really paranoid, you could encapsulate DoT queries within the tunnel to keep them hidden from even your VPN provider

                          Please, if possible, show example?

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