Potential DNS Rebind attack detected on my local network

johnpoz

@stephenw10 that wouldn't matter, and dig does it by default anyway unlike nslookup

stephenw10

Given the presence of Nord and PIA do you have Unbound in forwarding mode to other upstream servers over the VPN?

None of that should matter though, Unbound should still respond with hostoverrides in place.

comet424

@stephenw10
@johnpoz
so for custom options in dns resolver i have

server:
local-zone: "windowsupdate.com" redirect
local-data: "windowsupdate.com 86400 IN A 192.168.0.32"

server:
local-zone: "microsoft.com.edgesuite.net" redirect
local-data: "microsoft.com.edgesuite.net 86400 IN A 192.168.0.32"

server:
local-zone: "update.microsoft.com" redirect
local-data: "update.microsoft.com 86400 IN A 192.168.0.32"

server:
local-zone: "do.dsp.mp.microsoft.com" redirect
local-data: "do.dsp.mp.microsoft.com 86400 IN A 192.168.0.32"

server:
local-zone: "dl.delivery.mp.microsoft.com" redirect
local-data: "dl.delivery.mp.microsoft.com 86400 IN A 192.168.0.32"

server:
local-zone: "cdn.blizzard.com" redirect
local-data: "cdn.blizzard.com 86400 IN A 192.168.0.32"

server:
private-domain: "home.arpa"

server:include: /var/unbound/pfb_dnsbl.*conf

my host over ride is

the
dig @192.168.0.1 tardis.home.arpa command without the extra .

dns resolver i set to all all so i can then do the bypass routing policy on Lan

i disabled NordVPN and switched over to PIA they do different things... like no proper video for PIA but one had NAT just 192.168.0.0 and another used the pia for 1::128 and those other generated in NAT table so i dubbed them like i read in a PIA setup tutorial.. its like there is different ways to set up there vpn..

i dont use the DNS forwarder... as it wasnt part of the setup of PIA or norvpn in the past.. and i think i read or watched you cvan have dns resolver and forwarder same time?

only other VPN i use is Site to Site to my sisters Pfsense so i can access her network like it was here.. and i have to re add remote access...

and this is my LAN rules

any other screen shots you need..

johnpoz

@comet424 said in Potential DNS Rebind attack detected on my local network:

server:
private-domain: "home.arpa"

that is not needed, like I said that tells unbound hey if I forward home.arpa to some other NS or get an answer from some other ns and the answer is rfc1918 its ok.. But in no scenario that I can think of should that soa be returned for anything in home.arpa domain - unless you created the local record for it.

Or your forwarding to some other NS that has that soa setup or returns that soa for its local records... Unbound sure and the hell does not do that out of that box.

; <<>> DiG 9.16.50 <<>> @192.168.9.253 home.arpa SOA
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31045
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;home.arpa.                     IN      SOA

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 23 12:36:13 Central Standard Time 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 38

You can see there is no SOA record for home.arpa That tells me unbound is asking something else for home.arpa - or your client isn't actually asking unbound. Or you have a local-data record setup your not showing. You don't have bind package running do you on pfsense?

And if you did ask the public internet for home.arpa or any normal NS on the public internet for something in home.arpa it should return that prisioner soa, because home.arpa has been set aside for private local use only.

Also that you would ever get back a rebind tells me unbound did not return what it had in its local records.. But asked/forwarded to someone else.. A rebind is when unbound asks some other NS and the answer is rfc1918.. That is by definition a rebind.

comet424

@johnpoz ok ill remove that server private domain then
as for NS thats Name Server right...
and only dns is pfsense minus 192.168.0.32 but thats the lancache for Windows updates and some games.. as my internet is only like 2 megabit and pay 100 bucks a month for internet thats not always stable.. but thats the only DNS stuff i setup

now the only local data setup i setup i guess is under the dhcp server i set static IPs like tardis.. but i set the Tardis hostname and ip of 192.168.0.3 and the DNS 192.168.0.1 and gateway of 192.168.0.1 so i dont do anything fancy

do you need a full display of NAT table.. or my PIA vpn right now i disabled the Nordvpn interface so i was able to shut off the openvpn client...

but ill remove the private domain and do a reboot of pfsense so its fresh.. i sometimes find pfsense works better after a reboot

comet424

and i thought i was good everything was find after i changed the general to the home.arpa

and i was able to ping again from Windows and unraid so i thought i was good

but then noticed i couldnt do it from ubuntu or raspberry pi

also i cant ping "tardis" from pfsense ping doesnt allow me there but i was sure i used to be able to

stephenw10

You are forwarding requests to whatever DNS servers you have set in System > General Setup via whatever gateways are set there.

But more importantly you don't appear to have any DHCP registration options in the Resolver. So either you are running 24.03 with Kea or pfSense is not the DHCP server on your network?

comet424

@stephenw10
pfsense is the dhcp server for all my vlans and lan
the general tab

i have it set for kea

i do not know what 24.03 is if thats pfsense version no i not running that version must be new
i only have 2.7.2
i looked under dns resolver under the 3 tabs didnt find a registration option

stephenw10

Ah Ok. In that case DHCP registration in the DNS server was not available in Kea at that point. If you switch back to ISC you can enable that and can then resolve other clients by hostname.

comet424

@stephenw10 so i flipped back to the ISC and enabled the dns registration... nothing happened so i rebooted everything pfsense switchs computers..
i still only can ping tardis from windows or unraid

ubuntu, raspberry pi,. and pfsense cant ping hostnames

and since ithe ISC is being depreciated the features in KEA will it get the ISC features when it gets released? like the hostname resolving you mentioned

stephenw10

Yes it's in the upcoming 24.11 Plus release.

But pfSense itself should certainly be able to resolve them if they appear in the DHCP leases table.

comet424

@stephenw10 maybe by morning it fix itself will see if not its werid as i can "ping pfsense" from ubuntu and it does it ok but i cant ping tardis and pfsense i cant ping either tardis or any local hostnames

is that a rule order issue or conflicting nat and not sure what 1:1 nat is really

stephenw10

How does the ping fail? What error is shown?

comet424

@stephenw10 so i left it and it didnt fix itself

so for pfsense i get

The following input errors were detected:

Host "tardis" did not respond or could not be resolved.

for ubuntu i get

and windows and unraid i can still ping host name fine

i checked the dns registration box

comet424

nslookup doesnt find anything in windows
but ping does
and no dig in windows command prompt

stephenw10

Ok. I expect though that host or nslookup works if you use the fqdn?: tardis.home.arpa

And ping Ubuntu?

It looks like you have a mismatch in the domain you're assigning or passing to clients somewhere. Windows appends it from something. Linux doesn't. or uses the wrong domain.

johnpoz

@stephenw10 yeah you would expect tardis. to fail with dig.. that is asking for just tardis and not fully qualified, that should always fail.

if your going to use nslookup and let the search suffix work you should set debug so you can see what it actually asks for.

Your ping there on windows that comes back without it fully qualified is most likely using something else to resolve mdns, llmns, wds - there are multiple methods of just resolving locally without dns. If it actually used dns to resolve that than the ping should show tardis.home.arpa, etc..

ash-4.4# nmblookup i9-win
192.168.10.9 i9-win<00>
192.168.9.100 i9-win<00>
172.29.64.1 i9-win<00>
ash-4.4#

comet424

@johnpoz
@stephenw10

so not sure how to use the debug for for nslookup well properly the way you guys want me to type it in
as for domain name. i only have it set under general.

so its weird i always thought that as long as i could ping a hostname in windows that the dns was working but it used mdns llmns wds or so on.. always learn something new everyday no wonder i had probems 25 years ago witn WinGate trying to share internet was a program to share internet and dns server...

so i did a bunch of tests and screen shots of my static ip the dhcp of lan general... do you see anything i got set wrong that that dns resolver isnt working right.. does NAT have anything to do with it?
is there another place to look for domain name or page that the resolver isnt working.. i figured the extra PIA NATs i added duplicated of the WAN as i dunno i did a clean install last time i had issues and seems i got issues again lol its just just 1 check box or 1 rule that causes the dns not to work

johnpoz

@comet424 I am not sure what is going on but what does yours show when you go to the dns lookup under diagnostics?

what about dig right on pfsense?

[24.03-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/root: dig nas.home.arpa

; <<>> DiG 9.18.20 <<>> nas.home.arpa
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41317
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;nas.home.arpa.                 IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
nas.home.arpa.          3600    IN      A       192.168.9.10

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Mon Nov 25 15:33:39 CST 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 58

[24.03-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/root:

What seems really odd to me is that SOA.. you shouldn't be getting that.

unbound is not an authoritative NS, it really shouldn't hand out SOAs for domain you have records for.. And have no idea where that is coming from.. If your stuff was being forward to any sort of public dns.. Then you should get back that

SOA prisoner.iana.org.

if you setup a reservation for this tardis IP via its mac, then on unbound register reservations/static

does pfsense.home.arpa resolve via dns diagnostic?

You can look in your unbound config.

[24.03-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.home.arpa]/var/unbound: cat host_entries.conf 
local-zone: "home.arpa." static
local-data-ptr: "127.0.0.1 localhost.home.arpa"
local-data: "localhost. A 127.0.0.1"
local-data: "localhost.home.arpa. A 127.0.0.1"
local-data-ptr: "::1 localhost.home.arpa"
local-data: "localhost. AAAA ::1"
local-data: "localhost.home.arpa. AAAA ::1"
local-data-ptr: "192.168.9.253 sg4860.home.arpa"
local-data: "sg4860.home.arpa. A 192.168.9.253"
local-data-ptr: "192.168.9.10 nas.home.arpa"
local-data: "nas.home.arpa. A 192.168.9.10"
local-data-ptr: "192.168.9.100 i9-win.home.arpa"
local-data: "i9-win.home.arpa. A 192.168.9.100"
local-data-ptr: "192.168.2.5 FlexHD.home.arpa"
local-data: "FlexHD.home.arpa. A 192.168.2.5"
local-data-ptr: "192.168.2.13 UC.home.arpa"
local-data: "UC.home.arpa. A 192.168.2.13"
local-data-ptr: "192.168.2.198 Johns-13.home.arpa"
local-data: "Johns-13.home.arpa. A 192.168.2.198"

Can you post up your /var/unbound/unbound.conf file? If your registering dhcp, and you have a client renew its lease you should see it listed in dhcpleases_entries.conf

comet424

@johnpoz

ok so i ran your tests did a couple extras and i did some comments

hope its helping as i dunno whats wrong from what i see compared to yours dns is not pointing internally but externally for internal ips

dns lookup.png dns lookup2.png dns lookup3.png

i ran this before i did the check box register dhcp button you had me do
dns lookup4.png

now i checked the register box
dns lookup5.png dns lookup6.png dns lookup7.png dns lookup8.png

now i did the dhcp releases one

dns lookup9.png dns lookup10.png

now looking at the file i notice it doesnt have all the dhcp leases from the ARP table from diagnostics page.. unless it takes a bit or needs a reboot?

and dont tell me that one check box solves everything? but hope that info so far helps diginose whats going on and more tests i look forward to solve things

and i really appreciate you and stephens help