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    Local DNS Records on different subnet

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    • jhmc93J
      jhmc93 @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 see the DNS CNAME records resolve if I'm on pfsense's subnet but not isp subnet, pihole runs via isp subnet but it does work when I set the pfsense to that pihole via ISP

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Does it actually not resolve or just not connect?

        The screenshot above looks like a connection issue not a DNS problem.

        If it does resolve what is it resolving to at the client?

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        • jhmc93J
          jhmc93 @stephenw10
          last edited by jhmc93

          @stephenw10 so I am on my pfsense subnet right now,Screenshot 2024-11-27 215709.png

          where as it doesn't do that if I'm on my isp router

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jhmc93
            last edited by johnpoz

            @jhmc93 that browser error is not a dns not resolving, browser not resolving something would look like

            2024-11-27_160113.jpg

            Your machine resolved that to something, is it the right thing - who knows from that picture - but it did resolve it.

            If your using firefox go to about:networking#dns it will show you what you resolved something too

            dns.jpg

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            • jhmc93J
              jhmc93 @stephenw10
              last edited by jhmc93

              not showing anything

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              • jhmc93J
                jhmc93 @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz Screenshot 2024-11-27 224050.png
                guessin this is it can't be sure though

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  On the client just try to resolve it at the command line so you can see what it resolves to.

                  If it resolves to something in the 10.84.x.x subnet (pfSense LAN) then you will need a route to it via pfSense.

                  If you just put all your clients on a subnet behind pfSense this would work without issue.

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                  • jhmc93J
                    jhmc93 @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 by client do u mean my machine I work on, the traefik machine or the pihole server??

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      I mean a desktop/laptop in the 192.168.8.X subnet (pfSense WAN side).

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jhmc93
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @jhmc93 how would you think that is it - that name ocsp.digicert.com is not the fqdn you were trying to go to.. Come on Man!!

                        The fqdn in your proxmox shows pve.local.something - does that look anything even remotely close? That is the oscp check for a digicert cert..

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol

                        I thought it was pretty obvious - I highlighted 2 names that are local on my network, nas and sg4860.home.arpa - that resolve to local rfc1918 IPs

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                        • jhmc93J
                          jhmc93 @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz 59ce8966-1ead-493e-b47c-7d1c928cf9f2-image.png I'm thick sorry

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jhmc93
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                            @jhmc93 that doesn't show any iP it was resolved too - unless you cut it out columns are different order?

                            not sure why it would even show that?? If it didn't resolve to something, and you would get a different error if had no ip to talk to, like I posted above.

                            partitionjpg.jpg

                            Can we see the top of that output, see where it shows suffix and doh and trr mode.

                            Also that seems like a really odd isolation key for going to some local domain.. jhncmedia.com

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                            • jhmc93J
                              jhmc93 @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz Screenshot 2024-11-29 181854.png

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jhmc93
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                                @jhmc93 so your search suffix is a public domain? Yeah your most likely going to have weird stuff happen.

                                because you look, for something like pve.local.whatever its going to end up looking for pve.local.whatever.cable.otherthing.net

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                                • jhmc93J
                                  jhmc93 @johnpoz
                                  last edited by

                                  @johnpoz even though pihole is set as my dns on pfsense and on the laptop on my isp side so don't know what is going on

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                                  • jhmc93J
                                    jhmc93 @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 nslookup.png your answer

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok great so it does resolve to the internal IP in the pfSense LAN subnet as expected.

                                      This it is almost certainly failing because the client has no route to reach that subnet. It would not have one by default. It would have to have been added as a static route via the pfSense WAN. And pfSense would need rules on WAN to pass it.

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                                      • jhmc93J
                                        jhmc93 @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10 how would I go about that? without exposing it to public internet because I wanna keep it in my ISP subnet and Pfsense Subnet

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Well really what you should do is move all clients to a subnet behind pfSense to avoid this issue. It's almost certainly going to cause other problems having clients in the pfSense WAN subnet.

                                          But I understand you might have physical restrictions for example preventing that.

                                          So you need a firewall rule on the pfSense WAN to allow traffic from the wan subnet to whatever the target IP is on the LAN.

                                          And you need to add a static route to the pfSense LAN subnet via the pfSense WAN IP on the client directly.

                                          That doesn't expose anything to the public internet.

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                                          • jhmc93J
                                            jhmc93 @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10 so do I create that rule in the lan or wan firewall rule or is it a nat rule

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